Savage BVSS 22-250 First time at range

[Goosebrown]

Savage BVSS 22-250 bought used with Leupold VariX III 6-20. 1-12" twist. Factory trigger and stock.

Researched and loaded for an Audette ladder with 53gr Amax with H4895 and Varget.

Went from midrange to max loads in .2gr increments.

Had 10 spots left in the cartridge box after the test loads so I guessed at a load in the lower middle of the ladder at 34.5gr Varget and did 10 just for warm up.

I hit the nail on the head here.




The flyer was my fault.

The ladder showed almost no change in point of impact from 34.4 - 34.6gr with Varget. Great results with H4895 also but not quite so spectacular.

I now have some sierras I am going to return. I don't reckon I need more load development. This is the first time EVER I have hit it so close first time out the gate.

It took 2 years of tests to get my 204 R700 working right.

[russ69]

....I now have some sierras I am going to return...

Do stores take returns on bullets? I'm not sure I would, there is some liability there.

[Teachu2]

Bullets, not cartridges.

[russ69]

Bullets, not cartridges.

Yes, bullets.

[RNE228]

Looks interesting. I still want a 99 in 250-3000.

[ar15barrels]

loaded for an Audette ladder with 53gr Amax with H4895 and Varget.

The ladder showed almost no change in point of impact from 34.4 - 34.6gr with Varget.

What distance were you shooting the ladder test at?

[Goosebrown]

I shoot ladders at 100. I should do at 200 to see the difference more clearly, but no range locally has 200 for non-members on weekends.

At 100, when you leave an accuracy node, you get a perfect little ladder either above or below. It works out pretty well. Like I say though this is the first time I have hit it on the nose (a nose... ) right out the gate.

[Goosebrown]

Do stores take returns on bullets? I'm not sure I would, there is some liability there.

They do if they are sealed. My Sierras were still in the bag on the bench unopened. The manager takes a look and says yea or nay. If they make me keep them that won't be the end of the world. I think the BC is pretty close to the Amax so I would start with the same ladder. The Amax is a cheaper bullet too.

[ar15barrels]

I shoot ladders at 100. I should do at 200 to see the difference more clearly, but no range locally has 200 for non-members on weekends.

You will get FAR more readable results at 300yds.
At 100yds, you were not even seeing the change in impact location because the differences between loads were smaller than the standard deviation of how well the gun groups.
At 300yds and beyond, you will get a really nice vertical dispersion that is much more readable.
I have shot ladder tests all the way out to 840yds.
I am talking about 0.2gr steps, one shot each and building a ladder that was 18" tall showing two obvious nodes.

[Fjold]

It's a Savage, what did you expect?

Boring accuracy straight out of the box. It's not like Remington where you get to true the action, bed it and replace the trigger before you can get it to shoot.

[Goosebrown]

You will get FAR more readable results at 300yds.
At 100yds, you were not even seeing the change in impact location because the differences between loads were smaller than the standard deviation of how well the gun groups.
At 300yds and beyond, you will get a really nice vertical dispersion that is much more readable.

No. They pretty clearly show at 100 yards. 300 is better, but you work with what you have. The impacts are not within the standard deviation of the rifle.

One control is to shoot each ladder twice and recording each shot on paper. When your targets match, you know you are reading the right result.

[Goosebrown]

It's a Savage, what did you expect?

Boring accuracy straight out of the box. It's not like Remington where you get to true the action, bed it and replace the trigger before you can get it to shoot.

Wish I could simply thumbs up here. Savage are boringly accurate. With the right loads. With cheapo S&B ammo this was about 1" at 100 which is good enough with cheap ammo.

[MongooseV8]

This is the first time EVER I have hit it so close first time out the gate.

It took 2 years of tests to get my 204 R700 working right.

I have found this to be a common senario.