AR pistol stock question

[kingfamous]

Im almost finished with my AR pistol, I dont have my pistol buffer tube yet. Im i legal to use a mil spec buffer tube from a 6 position stock? just the tube itself of course, not with the stock attached.

[Domingo]

You can't
Since you can install a stock in the tube

[LONGRANGER777]

No....Dont do it!

[mshill]

Get a Phase5 with the foam pad. No matter what you do you will want to cover it, so just buy one that comes with a cover to begin with.

[mif_slim]

You can, you just have to make it not able to accept a buttstock. Have fun with that.

[tonelar]

This attaches and keeps your tube from accepting a stock.

[kingfamous]

thanks for the answers guys. Tonelar, who makes that?

[rideordie]

https://www.thordsencustoms.com

[Germz]

You can't
Since you can install a stock in the tube

FUD.

OP you can install any receiver extension your heart desires. Just dont attach a stock.

And while I understand CA can be more scrutinous than federal law, this issue has been settled in our favor on the federal level by the ATF.

[CK_32]

With out modification you leave the door open for intent if the wrong eyes see it.

I would advise against it and just wait until you get your tube in. But will you land in jail the second you put it on. No. But again I wouldn't risk it personally.

[Ninety]

FUD.

OP you can install any receiver extension your heart desires. Just dont attach a stock.

And while I understand CA can be more scrutinous than federal law, this issue has been settled in our favor on the federal level by the ATF.

This ^

With out modification you leave the door open for intent if the wrong eyes see it.

I would advise against it and just wait until you get your tube in. But will you land in jail the second you put it on. No. But again I wouldn't risk it personally.

And very sound advice.

Basically you can do it , just not advisable.. and don't have an extra buttstock with you when u do take it out.

[Rm7pr]

Im almost finished with my AR pistol, I dont have my pistol buffer tube yet. Im i legal to use a mil spec buffer tube from a 6 position stock? just the tube itself of course, not with the stock attached.

I have one installed on mine with the Thordsen AR pistol setup they sell. It's great. They didn't have the keyed tube when I bought it so I used an extra 6 position tube I had laying around. My local gun shop didn't have a problem with it when I went shopping for the upper nor did they offer an opinion when I showed it to them. I've shopped there for years so if there was an issue they know me well enough to have said something (I hope). The law says nothing about it specifically. As far as intent, I'd only worry about that if someone caught you with the bare tube installed and the uninstalled stock nearby. And even then it's a stretch. Good luck.

[Quiet]

I have one installed on mine with the Thordsen AR pistol setup they sell. It's great. They didn't have the keyed tube when I bought it so I used an extra 6 position tube I had laying around. My local gun shop didn't have a problem with it when I went shopping for the upper nor did they offer an opinion when I showed it to them. I've shopped there for years so if there was an issue they know me well enough to have said something (I hope). The law says nothing about it specifically. As far as intent, I'd only worry about that if someone caught you with the bare tube installed and the uninstalled stock nearby. And even then it's a stretch. Good luck.

Under CA laws...
Having a buffer tube installed and owning/possessing a shoulder stock that can fit on it, is possession of a SBR. [PC 17170(e)]


Penal Code 17170
As used in this part, "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
(a) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(b) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
(c) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
(e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

[MauserMike]

Under CA laws...
Having a buffer tube installed and owning/possessing a shoulder stock that can fit on it, is possession of a SBR. [PC 17170(e)]


Penal Code 17170
As used in this part, "short-barreled rifle" means any of the following:
(a) A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(b) A rifle with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
(c) Any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
(d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
(e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

going by this law. every ar-15 owner is a felon and needs to be sent to jail right meow. I totally ignore constructive possession laws because they are completely impossible to follow if you build ar-15's. If you have a standard ca legal ar-15 and or ar-pistol you are in possession of parts being able to assemble an illegal firearm. These laws are there so they can pin more stuff on you after you've been caught doing other more obviously illegal firearms practices.

I go by the rules. I have no illegal iterations of ar's or any guns, BUT including the parts and parts from other guns one could assemble a SBR, AOW or an evil war rifle in seconds with a swap of an upper or a trade of a bullet button.
What keeps us in the clear is simply NOT ASSEMBLING THEM.

[Never Convicted]

the AR pistol threads are always the best for spreading FUD...