Is it considered a one-hole when...

[Elucidus]

...all the holes in the target are connected on the horizontal edges of their circle? If so, I shot some really good 5-shot groups last night. About 2" wide with my 45.

[pullnshoot25]

Rad.

[Fjold]

Horizontal, vertical, diagonal, as long as they all touch each other. One hole groups can be deceiving at times, the difference between these two groups show it.

[Sheldon]

There are degrees of the expression "one hole". There is the literal one hole group from the accurate shooter where the group is very close to being the same diameter of the bullets shot. There is the more typical ragged one hole group, where the group is a larger mostly round group. A looser definition of the term would be a group of ten shots lined up in a straight line, but where all the shots are cutting into one another....not much of a "group" in most people's opinion, I would think.

[NeoWeird]

I tend to be of the mindset that for target rifles 'one hole' means the center of each bullet is within a theoretical circle the same size as the bullet. That would mean that a .223 varmint rifle's 'one hole' group would be just under half an inch from any two extremes.

For handguns and more defensive oriented longguns I tend to lean a little further out, where in 'one hole' means that the exteme edge of all bullets could touch or be inside a circle the theoretical diameter of the bullet. So a .45 could have a one hole measuring just over 1 1/3" from any two extremes.

I say this because if 'one hole' was truely just all were touching making one hole, than any handgun could be a 'one hole' from any distance, it would just require more rounds; hit a target a million times with a .22 from 200 yards and it will be one big hole, but that is not the same as the guy who hits 10 shots into sub-moa groups with his .22. Some people also say it is if they are all touching through one magazine, but again that could mean that an STI with extended magazine (nearly 30 rounds for .38 super) could produce a 'one hole' nearly 4 times wider than a traditional 1911 and still be considered a 'one hole' gun.

By my definition there are only a limited number of shots that can happen before shots are placed in the same location again (theoretically). It doesn't matter if you fire 3 rounds or 300 rounds; it will consistantly produce the same groups over and over where as stringing the bullets into a line is nothing more than poor finger control and is no indication of the accuracy of the firearm or the skill of the shooter.

Just my opinion on the subject matter.

[devildog999]

...all the holes in the target are connected on the horizontal edges of their circle? If so, I shot some really good 5-shot groups last night. About 2" wide with my 45.

[anothergunnut]

I'm not much of a marksman but I can usually shoot a one hole group with my AK-47 and Wolf ammo. Of course, I can only do it with a one round group

[Fjold]

A three shot end-to-end group

[CSACANNONEER]

I prefer one holers. They are a lot easier to dig.

[Elucidus]

I tend to be of the mindset that for target rifles 'one hole' means the center of each bullet is within a theoretical circle the same size as the bullet. That would mean that a .223 varmint rifle's 'one hole' group would be just under half an inch from any two extremes.

For handguns and more defensive oriented longguns I tend to lean a little further out, where in 'one hole' means that the exteme edge of all bullets could touch or be inside a circle the theoretical diameter of the bullet. So a .45 could have a one hole measuring just over 1 1/3" from any two extremes.

I say this because if 'one hole' was truely just all were touching making one hole, than any handgun could be a 'one hole' from any distance, it would just require more rounds; hit a target a million times with a .22 from 200 yards and it will be one big hole, but that is not the same as the guy who hits 10 shots into sub-moa groups with his .22. Some people also say it is if they are all touching through one magazine, but again that could mean that an STI with extended magazine (nearly 30 rounds for .38 super) could produce a 'one hole' nearly 4 times wider than a traditional 1911 and still be considered a 'one hole' gun.

By my definition there are only a limited number of shots that can happen before shots are placed in the same location again (theoretically). It doesn't matter if you fire 3 rounds or 300 rounds; it will consistantly produce the same groups over and over where as stringing the bullets into a line is nothing more than poor finger control and is no indication of the accuracy of the firearm or the skill of the shooter.

Just my opinion on the subject matter.

I agree with your definition, I always believed one-hole to be almost essentially one-hole, a number of .45 cal rounds grouping ~0.5".

Now here's a "one-hole" with some fliers!