Compare & Contrast CZ75 and Glock 19...

[himurax13]

Wat

I was referring to the perfect "Glock Grip Angle" that you mentioned.

After all of these years, all it took was a $22 product called the "Grip Force Adapter" to fix it.

[chrisbw]

I have both, and shoot both well. If given the choice of which to take to the range I'd go with the CZ all day. Easier for me to shoot accurately, stock sights are not as coarse as the glock, and the additional heft helps with followup shots. There's also more pride in ownership with the CZ; it's all steel, looks way better and it's just more enjoyable to fondle.

That being said, if I could only own one it'd be the glock. It's lighter, easier to take down and clean(not that the CZ is very difficult), parts availability is better, has a rail, etc.

I'm with a lot of others when I say get both, but if you can only have one the glock will be more versatile.

[Off the Roster]

That said, some people do like the Glock ergonomics.

oxymoron!


if you care about fitting in to LA get a glock, if you care about shooting CZ - all the way (David at CajunGunWorks is the only smith you will ever need)

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I was referring to the perfect "Glock Grip Angle" that you mentioned.

After all of these years, all it took was a $22 product called the "Grip Force Adapter" to fix it.

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said it was a perfect "Glock Grip Angle," and I in fact cut my teeth on a CZ-75b which was my first centerfire pistol. So, by virtue of muscle memory, I am more familiar and comfortable with the CZ and 1911 grip angle than with glocks.

That said, the angle of a Glock's grip does effectively make the bore axis lower, which does reduce muzzle flip. (Probably explains why I've never been a good shot with a Sig Sauer - if anything, their grip angle is tilted the other way from a 1911/CZ, darn near straight up) So, on a Sig, the bore axis feels even higher.

Eventually I'll get another CZ. I just have a plethora of accessories for my Glock, and to my surprise, and perhaps even a little to my chagrin, I happen to shoot it well. (Shrug)

[23 Blast]

I have both, and shoot both well. If given the choice of which to take to the range I'd go with the CZ all day. Easier for me to shoot accurately, stock sights are not as coarse as the glock, and the additional heft helps with followup shots. There's also more pride in ownership with the CZ; it's all steel, looks way better and it's just more enjoyable to fondle.

That being said, if I could only own one it'd be the glock. It's lighter, easier to take down and clean(not that the CZ is very difficult), parts availability is better, has a rail, etc.

I'm with a lot of others when I say get both, but if you can only have one the glock will be more versatile.

Concur with these sentiments. To me, the CZ is a heck of a good-looking gun, and I like the feel of all-steel.

A Glock, however, is a more practical all-around weapon.

[himurax13]

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said it was a perfect "Glock Grip Angle," and I in fact cut my teeth on a CZ-75b which was my first centerfire pistol. So, by virtue of muscle memory, I am more familiar and comfortable with the CZ and 1911 grip angle than with glocks.

That said, the angle of a Glock's grip does effectively make the bore axis lower, which does reduce muzzle flip. (Probably explains why I've never been a good shot with a Sig Sauer - if anything, their grip angle is tilted the other way from a 1911/CZ, darn near straight up) So, on a Sig, the bore axis feels even higher.

Eventually I'll get another CZ. I just have a plethora of accessories for my Glock, and to my surprise, and perhaps even a little to my chagrin, I happen to shoot it well. (Shrug)

I am not sure if the grip has much to do with the bore axis of a Glock but it is definately lower than many other pistol designs such as the Sigs and HK's.

It seems like my mods to my CZ's are expensive but they seem to be on par with what I do to my glocks.

[liamettocs]

OP, I own a Glock 22 and a .40 cal CZ 75B SAO and they are both very nice guns. I wouldn't agonize over this, because you can't make a bad decision here.

[gsparesa]

Obviously the same theme is echoed in this thread, “Either choice is good” and/or “buy both” if you have the coin. If you need some moral convincing to buy both, here is a kickshaw. “Instead of wasting your hard earned wealth on an over-rated and overpriced plastic HK pistol, for a few more bucks and some change you can purchase two prized pistols (Glock & CZ)”.

[penguinofsleep]

CZ 100% for me but that's only b/c relative to most other pistols, i can't shoot glocks as well and don't like them as much.

from a design and functional perspective though, i think it'd really come down to the one that fits your hands better or if you want striker fired (glock) vs DA/SA or SA (with safety). they are both very good guns.

On a different note, I saw a 75B (not sao, sp01, omega, etc) in a store the other day and it looks like they also come with the upswept beavertail and wider slide of the 75sao or shadow now. not sure how I feel about this - i have a slight preference for the smaller/original 75b slide, but no beavertail was imo a design mistake when they updated the 75 to the 75b.

[Wordupmybrotha]

OP, after you get the CZ just like you said, we all know you'll get the G19. Then you'll be conflicted about whether you should have gotten a G17 instead, since you can't carry concealed anyway.

Calgunners have all gone through this. If you're conflicted over two choices, eventually you're going to get both.

[Randomnamerealquick]

OP, after you get the CZ just like you said, we all know you'll get the G19. Then you'll be conflicted about whether you should have gotten a G17 instead, since you can't carry concealed anyway.

Calgunners have all gone through this. If you're conflicted over two choices, eventually you're going to get both.

There's a lot of truth to this statement, you'll likely buy several guns before you find the one that's right for you. (At least I did)

The first gun I ever bought was a g17, it was a good gun, it worked, but it didn't feel good to me (not a great way of explaining it)

So I bought a 1911...found out that I'm not a fan and that I think the design is outdated and the capacity sucks so I sold it and bought

A sig P226 mk25 (Non CA), great gun, probably one of the best I've ever owned, after about 500 rounds I installed the SRT and it was amazing. Unfortunately the way I held the pistol prevented the slide from locking to the rear. After trying to retrain myself with about 500 rounds with no luck I have up on it and sold it for what I had in it

And I bought a g20 and g21, as much as I didn't like glocks they worked, 10mm is awesome and I had a bunch of .45 ammo left over. After I shot my remaining .45 I decided I didn't need/want the g21 anymore and sold it for a small loss

I replaced it with a m&p9...shot about 100 rounds through it and hated he trigger so much I sold it a few days later (thought I could get over it...I was wrong). BUT the M&P did feel better in my hand

And then after hearing about Peruta I bought a g19...big enough to shoot comfortably, small enough to carry if I was ever able to. Ended up cleaning out my safe a few months back and selling any gun I had not shot in the last 6 months, got quite a bit of money and paid down a large chunk I owed on my car


And then I gave CZs a try...my friend had a SP01 worked over by CGW and it was amazing, it fit my hand perfectly, and I wanted one. Unfortunately SSE was gone by this point and decocker models are going for a premium so I started looking into alternatives. I was debating between the PCR and P01 for the same reason the G19 appealed to me, small enough to conceal carry but large enough to enjoy at the range. I found both at DGM in San Diego and the PCR felt better, was lighter, and I didn't need the rail. I've only got around 1000 rounds through it but I'm loving it, I have a Garrett Industries Silent Thunder Solo IWB holster on the way for it...and now I'm looking for a full sized CZ75BD to go with it


Sorry for the wall of text, taking a dump and started typing and it turned out longer than I thought it would

TLDR version: tried a bunch of guns, CZs are for me


I know I'm in the minority here but I don't like collecting guns just to have them, if I don't have a use for one I'd rather have the money for ammo/ bills than have it sitting in the safe

[himurax13]

OP, after you get the CZ just like you said, we all know you'll get the G19. Then you'll be conflicted about whether you should have gotten a G17 instead, since you can't carry concealed anyway.

Calgunners have all gone through this. If you're conflicted over two choices, eventually you're going to get both.

Tell me about it. I am thinking of putting a WTT ad up to trade my 17 and 26 for a pair of 19's.

[Wordupmybrotha]

Sorry for the wall of text, taking a dump and started typing and it turned out longer than I thought it would

Must've been a big dump bro.

[penguinofsleep]

TLDR version: tried a bunch of guns, CZs are for me

That's how I realized I like CZs too. Only with a lot less buying and selling.

But yes, I tried about every major manufacturer out there and most popular platforms and the last on the list (due to low availability at the time) was CZ. Having tried many guns and noting what I liked/didn't like, I had a feeling this one was going to be it. And yep, I was right - CZ was the way to go for me. They only work full size for me though, the smaller CZs just don't have the magic touch in my hands.

[BEE]

I too handled different brands of guns and CZ just won me over. I just love everything about CZ's from their all steel construction, esthetics, ergonomics, and shootability. Their weight doesn't really bother me much since I do work out. Aside from CZ's, 1911's would be a close second, followed by BHP's. Eventually I want to get into revolvers. If I ever wanted a polymer striker fire handgun again I would get another VP9 over a Glock.