Replacing 1911 Full Length Guide Rod

[igot105]

I own a Springfield Loaded 1911 with a full length guide rod that requires a hex screw allen wrench for disassembly. I want to replace it with a standard length GI guide rod. Two questions:

1. Has anyone done this and noticed any accuracy or reliability differences, and
2. Do I need to switch the recoil spring, i.e., does it require a longer or shorter spring?

[trigger945]

I have done this many times.

1) No, I did not notice any
2) No, same spring

Bonus - easier to take down and re-assemble with GI set up

[rogervzv]

I have done this many times.

1) No, I did not notice any
2) No, same spring

Bonus - easier to take down and re-assemble with GI set up

+1. I tried the two-part guide rod and did not like it. Who needs that extra step with the Allen wrench?

I have used both one-piece full length guide rods and the GI style. No difference whatever in reliability or accuracy.

Frankly, I think that the GI short guide rod as conceived by JMB is still the best.

[tbc]

I have done this many times.



1) No, I did not notice any

2) No, same spring



Bonus - easier to take down and re-assemble with GI set up

Same experience with my 1911.


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[WWDHD?]

I put a solid one piece guide rod on my Loaded with the OE spring and it works just as good as before.
Why does Springfield use this two-piece set-up? I don't know of anyone else who does. What's the advantage?

[dk94044]

1911 forums link to discussion....

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=183591

[ir0nclash86]

Id like to know that too. Why do they use one piece vs two piece?

[MauserMike]

I swapped out the 2 piece for a wilson combat one piece full length guide rod. i still take it apart by hand and it does not cause me any problems on assembly and disassembly. same exact process.

2 piece is supposed to be easier to take the gun down. i believe that is all. But from experience a single piece full length guide rod doesn't make a bit of difference to me on breakdown.

[tbc]

Replacing 1911 Full Length Guide Rod

Id like to know that too. Why do they use one piece vs two piece?

Hmm....let see....here is my speculation:

1. JMB designed the 1911 with a one piece short guide rod. It is the best guide rod design IMHO.

2. Over time, manufacturers accumulated complaint records that their out of the box 1911's were not accurate by users that can't shoot. Genius engineers along with marketing then came up with a full length guide rod to reduce number of complaints even though they know the full length rod has nothing to do with accuracy.

3. The accuracy complaints came down because users started to blame on ammo. But new complaints on difficulty of disassembling a full length guide rod surfaced.

4. Well, if a full length guide rod can be detached into two pieces, it will make the take down process much easier. Aftermarket/manufactures came out with a two piece guide rod which made it worst in reliability.




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[2slo4u]

Just get a GI rod and plug and call it a day. This question has been asked eleventy billion times before.

From my Motorola StarTAC.

What he said. Went with the GI style on both my Springfield loaded target and my RIA tactical and have never looked back. Works best as JMB designed.

[RR.44]

All 3 of my 1911s have the flgr I'm looking to replace the oversized one on the Springfield with a standard length flgr

[E92335i]

Went with GI setup on mine. Easy take down.

[GunHo]

Yup, replaced both my LT and RO with Wilson Combat FLGR... i think the FLGR helps guide the spring during fire and keeps the spring straight when compressed. And i think it looks tacticool when the slide is locked... just MHO

[krisjon]

I have and run both GI and FLGR setups. As stated, no real difference.

FLGR use came primarily from the competition shooting side years ago. The only potential advantage with a FLGR is more weight out front, which can help a bit with muzzle rise and faster follow up shots - and that depends on the gun.

Other than that, like the say, it's the singer, not the song.

[bountyhunter]

I put a solid one piece guide rod on my Loaded with the OE spring and it works just as good as before.
Why does Springfield use this two-piece set-up? I don't know of anyone else who does. What's the advantage?

None. The one piece FLGR with drilled take down hole is the easiest to use. STI and others sell them.