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  • Bobula
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2007
    • 9385

    Safe roster leo expemption question

    Anyone know the exact verbage defining the leo exception? A friend of mine works for a port and is sworn under 837pc, instead of 832pc, can he buy non rostered handguns?
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

    Fascist pig....
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44661

    Originally posted by Bobula
    Anyone know the exact verbage defining the leo exception? A friend of mine works for a port and is sworn under 837pc, instead of 832pc, can he buy non rostered handguns?
    PC 12125 -- Roster shall not apply to ...
    (4) The sale or purchase of any pistol, revolver or other firearm
    capable of being concealed upon the person, if the pistol, revolver,
    or other firearm is sold to, or purchased by, the Department of
    Justice, any police department, any sheriff's official, any marshal's
    office, the Youth and Adult Correctional Agency, the California
    Highway Patrol, any district attorney's office, or the military or
    naval forces of this state or of the United States for use in the
    discharge of their official duties. Nor shall anything in this
    section prohibit the sale to, or purchase by, sworn members of these
    agencies of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being
    concealed upon the person.
    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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    • #3
      jksupplyco
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 1623

      Policy Change Regarding State Exemptions for Authorized Peace Officers
      Effective immediately, peace officers who have legislative authority to carry and use firearms may, without a letter signed by the head of their agency or the agency head's designee, purchase non-rostered handguns and/or large capacity magazines. The peace officer must present a valid peace officer identification card and the dealer must retain a copy of the identification card on file. (PC 12132 & 12133). A letter is still required from the head of the agency to exempt the peace officer from the ten day waiting period. (PC 12078).

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      • #4
        jksupplyco
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1623

        PC 837 is Citizens Arrest. He probably falls under 830.7

        830.7. The following persons are not peace officers but may
        exercise the powers of arrest of a peace officer as specified in
        Section 836 during the course and within the scope of their
        employment, if they successfully complete a course in the exercise of
        those powers pursuant to Section 832:
        (a) Persons designated by a cemetery authority pursuant to Section
        8325 of the Health and Safety Code.
        (b) Persons regularly employed as security officers for
        independent institutions of higher education, recognized under
        subdivision (b) of Section 66010 of the Education Code, if the
        institution has concluded a memorandum of understanding, permitting
        the exercise of that authority, with the sheriff or the chief of
        police within whose jurisdiction the institution lies.
        (c) Persons regularly employed as security officers for health
        facilities, as defined in Section 1250 of the Health and Safety Code,
        that are owned and operated by cities, counties, and cities and
        counties, if the facility has concluded a memorandum of
        understanding, permitting the exercise of that authority, with the
        sheriff or the chief of police within whose jurisdiction the facility
        lies.
        (d) Employees or classes of employees of the California Department
        of Forestry and Fire Protection designated by the Director of
        Forestry and Fire Protection, provided that the primary duty of the
        employee shall be the enforcement of the law as that duty is set
        forth in Section 4156 of the Public Resources Code.
        (e) Persons regularly employed as inspectors, supervisors, or
        security officers for transit districts, as defined in Section 99213
        of the Public Utilities Code, if the district has concluded a
        memorandum of understanding permitting the exercise of that
        authority, with, as applicable, the sheriff, the chief of police, or
        the Department of the California Highway Patrol within whose
        jurisdiction the district lies. For the purposes of this subdivision,
        the exercise of peace officer authority may include the authority to
        remove a vehicle from a railroad right-of-way as set forth in
        Section 22656 of the Vehicle Code.
        (f) Nonpeace officers regularly employed as county parole officers
        pursuant to Section 3089.
        (g) Persons appointed by the Executive Director of the California
        Science Center pursuant to Section 4108 of the Food and Agricultural
        Code.
        (h) Persons regularly employed as investigators by the Department
        of Transportation for the City of Los Angeles and designated by local
        ordinance as public officers, to the extent necessary to enforce
        laws related to public transportation, and authorized by a memorandum
        of understanding with the chief of police, permitting the exercise
        of that authority. For the purposes of this subdivision,
        "investigator" means an employee defined in Section 53075.61 of the
        Government Code authorized by local ordinance to enforce laws related
        to public transportation. Transportation investigators authorized
        by this section shall not be deemed "peace officers" for purposes of
        Sections 241 and 243.
        (i) Persons regularly employed by any department of the City of
        Los Angeles who are designated as security officers and authorized by
        local ordinance to enforce laws related to the preservation of peace
        in or about the properties owned, controlled, operated, or
        administered by any department of the City of Los Angeles and
        authorized by a memorandum of understanding with the Chief of Police
        of the City of Los Angeles permitting the exercise of that authority.
        Security officers authorized pursuant to this subdivision shall not
        be deemed peace officers for purposes of Sections 241 and 243.
        (j) Illegal dumping enforcement officers, to the extent necessary
        to enforce laws related to illegal waste dumping, or littering, and
        authorized by a memorandum of understanding with, as applicable, the
        sheriff or chief of police within whose jurisdiction the person is
        employed, permitting the exercise of that authority. An "illegal
        dumping enforcement officer" is defined, for purposes of this
        section, as a person regularly employed by a city, county, or city
        and county, whose duties include illegal dumping enforcement and is
        designated by local ordinance as a public officer. No person may be
        appointed as an illegal dumping enforcement officer if that person is
        disqualified pursuant to the criteria set forth in Section 1029 of
        the Government Code. Persons designated pursuant to this subdivision
        may be furnished state summary criminal history information upon a
        showing of compelling need pursuant to subdivision (c) of Section
        11105.

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        • #5
          Bobula
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2007
          • 9385

          Hmmmm I know he carries high caps while working, but check his firearm in and out daily.
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

          Fascist pig....

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          • #6
            Casual Observer
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 1400

            Originally posted by Bobula
            Hmmmm I know he carries high caps while working, but check his firearm in and out daily.
            high capacity mags are irrelevant to LEO status. There is no law prohibiting ANYONE from owning or using high capactiy magazines, only manufacture, sell, transfer or importation.

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            • #7
              Greg-Dawg
              Banned
              • Oct 2006
              • 7793

              He should consult with his superiors.

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              • #8
                Rogue187
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 1157

                If he checks in his firearm daily then he may not be a LEO except on the job...and that may be limited also as to what his authority is and what he can and cannot do.

                He should ask his supervisors under what section of the California Penal Code does his authority come from. Also did your friend attend any kind of police academy?

                Your description is very vague and doesn't provide any kind of information as to what your friend is qualified under.

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                • #9
                  Bobula
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2007
                  • 9385

                  Post graduate and maintains a valid cert
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
                  Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

                  Fascist pig....

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                  • #10
                    461
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 619

                    I would say that if he doesn't know if he's a Peace Officer then he isn't.
                    -Tim-

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                    • #11
                      HowardW56
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 5901

                      Originally posted by 461
                      I would say that if he doesn't know if he's a Peace Officer then he isn't.

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