use of pre-ban magazines in Uzi pistol

[veeklog]

I was going through one of my many boxes of gun parts this morning looking for some AK swag (just got a M92 PAP Pistol for my Christmas present) and I found more than a few surplus Uzi Pre-ban 25 and 32 rounds magzines. In 1998 I bought a brand new Norinco Uzi 320 from B&E guns in Cypress, but foolishly sold it two months later because I needed the money (one of the few regrets on selling guns)

I forgot I bought a boatload of magazines with the Norinco, and now I found them in the very good condition. I bought a Vector Arms Uzi micro pistol, and would like to know if I could use them. My understanding is since the magazine goes into the pistol grip I can use the magazines. Opinions?

[phase1]

your good to go

[NoHeavyHitter]

I'm no lawyer, but it's my understanding that the plastic handguard / grip needs to be removed for it to be considered "featureless". Just swap out the handguard with some kind of quad-rail type system and then you should be good to go.

[Jeepers]

no front handguard is what is said around here to make a Uzi pistol featurless, personally i would not run them on anything but a grip wrap featureless carbine

also Feds allow pistol to carbine back to pistol conversion , CA DOJ does not.....

[NoHeavyHitter]

Feds allow pistol to carbine back to pistol conversion , CA DOJ does not.....

Do you have a link for that by any chance?

[Jeepers]

Do you have a link for that by any chance?

feds or state ?

feds i have a copy of the ATF paperworks floating around online

State has been discussed many times ,you cant make a pistol from a rifle

[Quiet]

The Mini-Uzi Pistol has a second handgrip, which is a prohibited feature on semi-auto pistols that use detachable magazines. [PC 30515(a)(4)(B)]

If the Mini-Uzi Pistol's horizontal forward grip is attached, then it needs a maglock + 10 or less round magazine.

If the Mini-Uzi Pistol's horizontal forward grip is removed, then it can use detachable magazines of any capacity.


Mini-Uzi Pistol configured as pictured, needs maglock + 10 or less round magazine.


Mini-Uzi Pistol configured as pictured, can legally use detachable magazines of any capacity.



Penal Code 30515
(a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, "assault weapon" also means any of the following:
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer's hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

[NoHeavyHitter]

feds or state ?

feds i have a copy of the ATF paperworks floating around online

State has been discussed many times ,you cant make a pistol from a rifle

CA DOJ. I know that you can't make a pistol from a rifle, but (federal law) permits a pistol to become a rifle and then can go back to being a pistol again - so long as the original configuration was "pistol".

I've never heard of any CA law that over-rides the BATF on this and would like to read it for myself, thanks.

[Stanze]

CA DOJ. I know that you can't make a pistol from a rifle, but (federal law) permits a pistol to become a rifle and then can go back to being a pistol again - so long as the original configuration was "pistol".

I've never heard of any CA law that over-rides the BATF on this and would like to read it for myself, thanks.

CA prohibits SBR which what your pistol will become once it goes from pistol to rifle back to pistol.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1007988

[sigstroker]

OP never said he had a mini Uzi. He has a micro, which has no "foregrip".

[Jeepers]

CA DOJ. I know that you can't make a pistol from a rifle, but (federal law) permits a pistol to become a rifle and then can go back to being a pistol again - so long as the original configuration was "pistol".

I've never heard of any CA law that over-rides the BATF on this and would like to read it for myself, thanks.

note the posts from CHS

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=462169&page=5

old thread and may have changed but never seen anything saying its ok in CA here so i dont think anything changed .....

[Stanze]

OP never said he had a mini Uzi. He has a micro, which has no "foregrip".

Micro UZI is banned by name under Roberti-Roos in CA.

Unless, OP was able to find and SSE a IWI Pro Pistol (Not technically a Micro UZI); then, one can presume that OP is referring to Vector Arms Mini UZI.

http://iwi.us/UZI-PRO-PISTOL

[drifts1]

Uh yeah, he specifically stated he bought a Vector Arms micro.

[Quiet]

Uh yeah, he specifically stated he bought a Vector Arms micro.

Vector Arms has never made a Micro Uzi Pistol.
They have only made full size Uzi pistols and Mini-Uzi sized pistols.