I was looking at the DOJ Roster yesterday...

[tacos3]

I was looking to see what 1911's are going to on the roster for purchase next year and looked up Kimber and everything that was on the roster had renewed through 1/1/2016. I know that I looked earlier and many of their guns had expiration dates in 2015.

Not sure if this has been posted before but might be of interest to some. Nice to see ANY company willing to do business in this messed up state.

Merry Christmas.

Darren

[Brute]

Good to know. Thanks for the info.

[5.56Geo]

That knife cuts both ways! I look at gun manufactures that comply with the DOJ roster as "DOJ Roster" enablers and accomplices. ...don't get me wrong! If all the gun manufactures allowed their guns to fall of the roster the people of California would have a VERY compelling case against the state for violating the second amendment, not that we don't now.

The "DOJ Roster" is just a way of California law makers extorting money from the gun makers, just like this new $25 Safe Handling Certificate that we will have to pay for when we buy a firearm (handgun or rifle) January 1st.

My thoughts.

[bsg]

That knife cuts both ways! I look at gun manufactures that comply with the DOJ roster as "DOJ Roster" enablers and accomplices. ...don't get me wrong! If all the gun manufactures allowed their guns to fall of the roster the people of California would have a VERY compelling case against the state for violating the second amendment, not that we don't now.

The "DOJ Roster" is just a way of California law makers extorting money from the gun makers, just like this new $25 Safe Handling Certificate that we will have to pay for when we buy a firearm (handgun or rifle) January of

My thoughts.

the roster is one of many hammers struck upon californians to keep them separate from the guns they wish to purchase to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

[9M62]

If all the gun manufactures allowed their guns to fall of the roster the people of California would have a VERY compelling case against the state for violating the second amendment, not that we don't now.

That's called putting all your eggs in one basket, and is not generally a very good move with things you cherish.

[GM4spd]

If all the gun manufactures allowed their guns to fall of the roster

And then what?

Pete

[5.56Geo]

^^^ I know, I know it kind of like going into the unknown. It's like a Band-Aid you just have to pull it off. The law makers impose these laws on gun owners and we get accustomed to the yoke when shouldn't be yoked by laws that revoke a right.

There is POWER in the people/masses (us)!

I am so sorry for derailing you thread Tacos3.

[vliberatore]

And then what?

Pete

Then the roster is challenged in court and deemed unconstitutional.

That's the thought process at least.

[Mr.1904]

And then what?



Pete

Then the roster becomes a de facto handgun ban.

[enegue]

That knife cuts both ways! I look at gun manufactures that comply with the DOJ roster as "DOJ Roster" enablers and accomplices. ...don't get me wrong! If all the gun manufactures allowed their guns to fall of the roster the people of California would have a VERY compelling case against the state for violating the second amendment, not that we don't now.

The "DOJ Roster" is just a way of California law makers extorting money from the gun makers, just like this new $25 Safe Handling Certificate that we will have to pay for when we buy a firearm (handgun or rifle) January 1st.

My thoughts.

Hoping that there are no handguns on the roster will give us a win in court is insane. There is no telling if that will happen. All it takes is for one of the conservative SCOTUS justices to die and be replaced by an anti-2A one, and there goes your plan!

[zoid52]

Then the roster is challenged in court and deemed unconstitutional.

That's the thought process at least.

Then we wait however long for a court ruling? (Years)

[Click Boom]

^yeap.

[Thrashard340]

That knife cuts both ways! I look at gun manufactures that comply with the DOJ roster as "DOJ Roster" enablers and accomplices. ...don't get me wrong! If all the gun manufactures allowed their guns to fall of the roster the people of California would have a VERY compelling case against the state for violating the second amendment, not that we don't now.

The "DOJ Roster" is just a way of California law makers extorting money from the gun makers, just like this new $25 Safe Handling Certificate that we will have to pay for when we buy a firearm (handgun or rifle) January 1st.

My thoughts.

It's a fair statement. Gun manufacturers find themselves in a precarious position of roster enabling or making a stand against unfair business practices by the State of California. On one hand, manufacturers who choose to sell into CA are enabling anti-gun policies. On the other hand, manufacturers who sell into CA are sticking it to these same politicians by continuing to arm the law abiding citizens of the state.

[osis32]

I'm conflicted. I'd love for all the manufacturers to say eff you and not renew. That's easy for me to say because i have everything i want. However that would screw a lot of young calgunners so it's hard to say. The whole thing is a manufactured predicament that is disgusting to even exist.

[Baer1911]

Well, Honestly I think this isn't a good sign!

CA renew whatever is already on the roster! means we wont get any new pistols and most of the manufactures are either fine by it or just gave up on fighting for it.

And this means that stupid roster will be somehow stays for an even longer period of time!

Seems like SSE 2.0 is our only options for the next couples years!