RIA 9mm extractor ???

[rm1911]

Just broke my third rock 1911 out of jail. Second 9mm. First was a tac II in 45. Loved both as they were accurate and reliable. Never had any problems other than with some older mags in the 45. In fact just got them both new mags and the metalforms and mccormik shooting stars were flawless.

Anyways, the newest one, 9mm, had some peculiar extraction issues. Every so often, no pattern or anything, brass wouldn't extract and new round would jam into brass left in chamber. Usually only one round per mag. Brass wouldn't fall out so had to let slide fall on the spent round and then manually rack slide to remove round. Happened about 4 or 5 times out of 150 rounds. Last round stuck good (empty brass. Not a live round. All rounds fired. ) and couldn't rack slide back. Was able to when I got home but round was stuck in chamber. Slight tap with a cleaning rod removed brass.

Now, I'm thinking it's maybe a brass issue. My reloads are of course filled with range pick up brass, so who knows the condition. That's certainly an issue. But I also noticed this on the brass



There's obviously some brass damage from the extractor. Either the brass is weak and tore on the problem rounds or the extractor is not set right. Otherwise there were no failures to feed. Full mags no problem. Double taps. No problem. Mix of 115 jhp's and 124 plated flat points. No problem. Everything worked flawlessly. Except when it didn't. Is it most likely brass problem or is it an extractor?

Should I contact armscor?

[emy]

Are the ammo your reload or is that factory new. I see sign of over pressure. Can you take a couple more brass.

[gawker]

First thing RIA is going to ask you, what brand of ammo you were shooting.

So when you say My reloads, they are gonna tell you to shoot some commercial through it first.

[JTROKS]

You said it works great most of the time and the problem is an occasional brass that won't eject being reloads. It seems you may have some type of G-smile resizing problem. Check this thread out: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1016960

That rim damaged may have been caused by the extractor hook going over the rim. Can't really tell from the pic being blurry. It seems the damage is from the grove moving to the base of the rim. Also the traditional 1911 extractor is not designed to jump over the rim of a case. It's a sure way to loosen up the tension it needs for reliable extraction and clean/consistent ejection. Google or youtube 1911 extractor tension so you can see if your extractor requires retuning. Try shooting it with factory ammo after giving the gun some cleaning paying close attention to the chamber. Inspect the chamber for chatter as in machining marks after you finished cleaning it.

[midvalleyshooter]

How does it work with factory ammo? If it runs OK with factory ammo it is a reloading issue.

Do you chamber check your ammo? Take out the barrel and test fit the ammo in the chamber. It should plop in and out without sticking.

If it does the same thing with factory ammo you could have an issue with the chamber of the barrel. So chamber check some factory ammo.

[bwhited]

As others have said, check it with commercial rounds.
The problem you explained sounds to be that the brass is sticking in the chamber hard enough that the extractor is pulling away for the brass. If the extractor was the issue then the brass would be easy to remove from the chamber.

[keshishian101]

Sorry to hear your having problems. Mine has almost 700 rounds of my reloads. The cases have been reloaded at least 9 times. No issues. Try factory ammo, if that doesn't fix the problem check your extractor tension. Might not be grabbing enough of the rim. Or could be an issue with the chamber as bwhited mentioned. good luck

[rm1911]

I'm not new to shooting. In fact my first handgun I purchased was a ppt before we had to go through a ffl. That being said, what is this "factory ammo" you all keep speaking of

Seriously though, after reading the replies I think it's more the brass. Since it was only a few times and random, it couldn't really be the extractor. Only reason I asked was that I haven't had problems with my 228 or other ria 9mm and my reloads. I musta had some glocked brass. I'll just have to be a little more diligent with my brass collection and inspection, etc.

It did seem weird and really never thought to go with a brass issue. And especially since the last round stuck in chamber, didn't make sense. Fired brass should have at least been able to come out easily enough. Since I don't own a glock I've never had to directly deal with glock brass. Oh well. But thanks for all the responses.

[MrSam]

Could be the ammo. I had the same issue with my RIA. It turns out the reloads I was shooting were not resized properly, so the expansion from previously being fired caused them to get stuck.

[himurax13]

Could be the ammo. I had the same issue with my RIA. It turns out the reloads I was shooting were not resized properly, so the expansion from previously being fired caused them to get stuck.

Every once in a while I will have a brass case with a mauled rim that is a bit out of spec. Sometimes it causes feeding/extraction issues and once in a blue moon, it will lock up the slide just a touch out of battery.