Sold on Series 70

[Press Check]

Having owned one or two Springfield 1911's with an ILS, I have no idea how they work because I replaced them prior to firing the pistol. Not much different than a Kimber with a plastic MSH, it is the first thing you get rid of.

[Oneaudiopro]

I've got a 1968 Colt 1911. How did they stack up to the 70 & 80 series?

[Mr310]

That's why I had to SSE this fine pistol....

[2761377]

Ok for a 100% target gun, but IF you drop a chambered series 70, on its hammer, on a hard surface, it could go bang.

Your beavertail, hammer, and sight choices may affect how dangerous it really is, but with my spur hammer, and standard beaver tail, I'll keep my series 80 firing pin block parts installed. It's one of the guns on my CCW permit.

the fear, and thrust of the Roster Drop Test, is that the pistol could land on it's muzzle hard enough for an unblocked firing pin to have forward inertia enough to detonate the primer.

hth

[jonzer77]

I just buy a $5 part from brownells that lets me convert a series 80 to a series 70.

[JohnCCW]

the fear, and thrust of the Roster Drop Test, is that the pistol could land on it's muzzle hard enough for an unblocked firing pin to have forward inertia enough to detonate the primer.

hth

[scotchblade]

I just buy a $5 part from brownells that lets me convert a series 80 to a series 70.

Is this the part?

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...facturer_1=TJS CUSTOM

[jonzer77]

Is this the part?



http://www.brownells.com/handgun-par...facturer_1=TJS CUSTOM

Yeah that's it.

[2761377]

Really?
The real fear is a handgun landing on its hammer, when it it pointing UP. How dangerous is a handgun firing with its muzzle on the ground?

from American Handgunner:
"Assuming all three samples passed the firing test, the guns were then dropped onto a concrete pad from a height of 39.4″. A primed case was placed in the chamber and the gun was made ready in its easiest-to-fire state (eg: hammer at full-cock on D/A revolvers and 1911-types, safeties off, etc.). Each sample was dropped six times from six different positions, to land on muzzle

yes, really; your ignorance is showing.

the classic perceived safety failing of the 1911 design was the un blocked firing pin.

Which is the substantive difference between Series 70 and 80. it was first addressed with the Swartz firing pin safety pre-WW2. google it.

to re-iterate- the function of the firing pin safety is entirely independent of the action/condition of the hammer.

[bombadillo]

I don't know about NO trigger job on a Series 70, but my 1974 Series 70 has a 2.5lb trigger that is AMAZING done by Larry Mears in Redding CA, and I have a hard time with just about anything else but a single action Python in comparison.

[tophatjones]

Ok for a 100% target gun, but IF you drop a chambered series 70, on its hammer, on a hard surface, it could go bang.

No it won't. For safety's sake, the hammer/sear engagement should be slightly positive, ie the hammer moves back a bit before falling. This alone should be enough to prevent an AD if the gun drops. However, if indeed the fall knocks the hammer hooks loose from the sear, the sear would then catch in the half cock notch, preventing the hammer from contacting the firing pin. Of course, I'm assuming that the gun was built correctly and the captive half cock notch hasn't been removed.

[InGrAM]

Ok for a 100% target gun, but IF you drop a chambered series 70, on its hammer, on a hard surface, it could go bang.

Your beavertail, hammer, and sight choices may affect how dangerous it really is, but with my spur hammer, and standard beaver tail, I'll keep my series 80 firing pin block parts installed. It's one of the guns on my CCW permit.

So much fail in this post...

The hammer would have to be lowered on a loaded chamber

And only an idiot would carry a 1911 in condition 2...

[Sunday]

Well duh.

[GM4spd]

No reason to pass on a series 80 pistol. The trigger can be just as clean
as a 70 series. The 80 has more parts but not a big deal. I make mine
all 3.5 lbs creep free. Pete

[himurax13]

I've heard the safety concern point before. How often does this actually happen?

Accidental discharges and guns going off on their own seems to occur frequently in the Law Enforcement community regardless of what equipment is used.