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  • FlyingPen
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 2377

    More accurate low profile sights than triple dots?

    Sometimes, I find that the triple dots don't always line up quite correctly visually. It doesn't feel like a 100% line up and I'm always visually guesstimating the line up (the spacing in between the two rear dots and the horizontal alignment among all 3 dots). While they've been my favorite vs most other sighting systems, I wanted to explore what else is out there that can give me quick 100% line ups that were also low profile.

    About the best I've found is:

    Tritium sights for your handgun, some equipped with Our Glow Dot Technology that absorbs surrounding light, providing a highly visible & illuminated front sight.


    The dotting the I or lollipop system.

    However, I still think that over long distances, this isn't quite 100% reliable either because you're visually guesstimating the position of a circle over a rectangular shape.

    I was wondering if someone one makes a sight like the XS system but with another rectangle instead of a circle. So you'll essentially be the dotting the i with a square dot. This way you can line up edge to edge instead of guesstimating a circle.
  • #2
    Visto
    Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 120

    heine straight eightss

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    • #3
      Chapped Hide
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 3901

      I've got AmeriGlo Pro i Dot's on my G26 and love them
      **** your feelings!

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      • #4
        SloChicken
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 4533

        I think you mean "precise" and not "accurate"

        The Heine "8 ball" sights are a 2 dot or post and dot setup that many prefer. I use either, but your preference is a personal thing and one is not more "precise" than the other.

        However, typically a narrower front sight will give the opportunity of being more precise as it covers less of the target.

        Just something to think about.
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        • #5
          utc
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1093

          I like the heinie straight eight ledge. I had similar sights (pattern,) on my old German Sig, and prefer it to the traditional 3 dot. I hear good things about the XS dot sights as well. Ameriglo also makes an I dot sight. Not sure what pistol you are wanting sights for, so don't know if anyone makes what you want. 10-8 Performance has great sights as well (might have what you want.)

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          • #6
            heidad01
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 4902

            I looked at the link you posted and that front sight will cover most of the target. I like to aim at a certain point and not anywhere in that zip code.

            I am not a fan of dots of any sort, glowing or not. They are only good for confusing the shooter and yes I know given enough practice, one gets used to them. The lined up dots do not mean anything but that you will hit in the general vicinty. Top of the front sight leveled with top of the rear sight in center is where the bullet is supposed to hit. Well, unless if we are talking combat or self defense shooting in which case you do not even look at the sights. It is bring it up to your line of sight and shoot.
            If you have time to aim, the most acuurate and precise, as mentioned above, will be No dots at all. The narrowest front sight with a not so wide rear with a square or half circle notch. One that comes to mind are the sights on the old GI 1911s but they look hideous.
            Sorry I can not offer any brands as I am still looking myself. Good luck.

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            • #7
              9mmepiphany
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2008
              • 8075

              Originally posted by FlyingPen
              I wanted to explore what else is out there that can give me quick 100% line ups that were also low profile.
              Ultimate accuracy would be an area best served by a black post front sight matched with a all black square notch.

              When you want more speed, you'd go with a thinner front blade and a wider rear notch...with vertical sides, not the Express ears of the XS.

              If you want to pick up the front sight a bit faster, you can add a fiber optic rod to the front blade and an "U" shape to the bottom of the rear notch...like 10-8 or Warren all black rear sights.

              you'll essentially be the dotting the i with a square dot. This way you can line up edge to edge instead of guesstimating a circle.
              If you are aligning your sights by judging the relationship between markings...be they round or square... you're paying attention to the wrong part of your sight set. You should be aligning the top of the front sight and the top of the rear sight's ears
              ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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              • #8
                Click Boom
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2013
                • 6955

                Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                Ultimate accuracy would be an area best served by a black post front sight matched with a all black square notch.

                When you want more speed, you'd go with a thinner front blade and a wider rear notch...with vertical sides, not the Express ears of the XS.

                If you want to pick up the front sight a bit faster, you can add a fiber optic rod to the front blade and an "U" shape to the bottom of the rear notch...like 10-8 or Warren all black rear sights.


                If you are aligning your sights by judging the relationship between markings...be they round or square... you're paying attention to the wrong part of your sight set. You should be aligning the top of the front sight and the top of the rear sight's ears
                This 10000%

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                • #9
                  sunrisefordrene
                  Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 443

                  The XS sights are "gunfighting" sights. i have them on my CCW guns..Front sight-shoot.Defensive distances. I love them for what they are. However, for longer distances-I.E, 15+ yards, they are not ideal. What I have found for precise shots at longer distances and the Heine all black sights.. That's me..

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                  • #10
                    PseudoTsuga
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 803

                    Ameriglo Kyle Defoor are my preferred sight for my glocks. I don't really do well with "combat" sights. I understand the philosophy behind them, but in my mind, anyone who has trained enough will be able to nearly disregard sights and "point shoot"at the ranges those sights are intended for, and in having target sights instead, if I need to make a shot at a greater distance than 25 yards, I'll be happy for the precision a target sight affords me. Bo-mar target sights on my 1911s (the real Bo-mars from the eighties) and the Defoor on the Tupperware.
                    Defoors are black on black (which I MUCH prefer) and are a pretty nice compromise between a full-on target sight and a "combat"sight.
                    They're about $48.


                    Last edited by PseudoTsuga; 12-11-2014, 5:25 AM.
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                    • #11
                      9mmepiphany
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 8075

                      Originally posted by sunrisefordrene
                      The XS sights are "gunfighting" sights. i have them on my CCW guns..Front sight-shoot.Defensive distances. I love them for what they are. However, for longer distances-I.E, 15+ yards, they are not ideal. What I have found for precise shots at longer distances and the Heine all black sights.. That's me..
                      I'd be really interested in any measurable study you've done to back that statement up...I'm not talking about their marketing hype.

                      You can shoot just a quickly, if not more quickly, using the Stressfire Index alignment as you can XS sights.

                      If they were really faster at "gunfighting" distances (whatever that is) you'd see reputable instructors advocating their use
                      ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                      • #12
                        himurax13
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 3895

                        What is wrong with FO Fronts and blacked out rears?
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                        • #13
                          daybreak
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1735

                          Originally posted by himurax13
                          What is wrong with FO Fronts and blacked out rears?
                          this. fastest option for me.

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                          • #14
                            Lead Waster
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 16650

                            Originally posted by sunrisefordrene
                            The XS sights are "gunfighting" sights. i have them on my CCW guns..Front sight-shoot.Defensive distances. I love them for what they are. However, for longer distances-I.E, 15+ yards, they are not ideal. What I have found for precise shots at longer distances and the Heine all black sights.. That's me..
                            I agree here. I bought a set for my Shield. That gun is not a long range shooter, it's a pipe-dream CCW gun. So I'll be putting CCW suitable sights on it.

                            Quick aquisition, not very precise, but good enough at close quarters (where you probably don't even need sights)
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                            • #15
                              Lead Waster
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 16650

                              Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                              I'd be really interested in any measurable study you've done to back that statement up...I'm not talking about their marketing hype.

                              You can shoot just a quickly, if not more quickly, using the Stressfire Index alignment as you can XS sights.

                              If they were really faster at "gunfighting" distances (whatever that is) you'd see reputable instructors advocating their use
                              For what it's worth James Yeager *ducking head* likes these sights and explains why.

                              Think what you want about Yeager. All I know is ... he knows a lot more about it than I do. And yeah, I know he has some connection with the company.



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