SP01 Dilemma

[Mr. Patis]

My SP01 is on its way to CGW for the PRO package....is the SAO trigger that much better? I see a lot of people getting this conversion done...this is going to be a range toy as I have other for self defense.

Should I go SAO or keep it DA/SA?

[himurax13]

The Single Action Trigger is great for people with small hand/short fingers. It offers a reasonable amount of pre and post travel stops.

I almost always advise against the SAO trigger for the SP01 since it knocks it out of nearly every division you can play with it in. The SAO trigger is better suited to the CZ75 Single Action and the regular 75 frames since they do not have full length steel dustcovers which means you can play with them in the ESP or Limited Minor classes.

With enough parts and patience, you can make the DA/SA around 5/2.5 lbs and a short reset with CGW parts on your SP01. This is a little too agressive for some people, so installing an 11 pound mainspring or higher might be better even though the trigger pull weight may be a little higher.

I have also noticed that my grouping is tighter with the 85 combat trigger than it was with the flat Single Action trigger. YMMV.

[Mr. Patis]

Will I be able to shoot IDPA or IPSC with the PRO package from CGW? I have never shot in any kind of competition and I didn't know about the restrictions?

[daybreak]

The SAO trigger is THAT much better. But himurax13 is right, it takes you out of a lot of divisions, (but so does the cgw race hammer vs the cz custom hammer, AND removing the FPB). I converted one of my SP01s, have a 75 Shadow SA, and a regular 75 Shadow DA/SA. I like the SAOs so much that I shoot limited (minor) with both of them, despite having a perfectly fine production gun in the 75 Shadow.

If you are not going to compete in production, i highly highly highly recommend the SAO conversion with the FPB removed. Make sure you get the flat trigger.

[himurax13]

Will I be able to shoot IDPA or IPSC with the PRO package from CGW? I have never shot in any kind of competition and I didn't know about the restrictions?

As long as you use the 85 combat trigger and either the Shadow or CZ competition hammer (not the Race hammer with the SP01) and keep all of the safeties intact, you should be good to go for any of the SSP or Production Division classes.

I know you have not competed yet, but trust me, it is way more fun than simple plinking at the range. You should read up on the rules and what gear to get. I model nearly all of my purchases around the stupid gun game rules.

[Mr. Patis]

As long as you use the 85 combat trigger and either the Shadow or CZ competition hammer (not the Race hammer with the SP01) and keep all of the safeties intact, you should be good to go for any of the SSP or Production Division classes.

I know you have not competed yet, but trust me, it is way more fun than simple plinking at the range. You should read up on the rules and what gear to get. I model nearly all of my purchases around the stupid gun game rules.

The reason for me getting the SP01 is so I can start competing rather than just going shooting at an indoor range...since CGW have not started on my gun...I think they should be able to put in the shadow hammer.

[himurax13]

The reason for me getting the SP01 is so I can start competing rather than just going shooting at an indoor range...since CGW have not started on my gun...I think they should be able to put in the shadow hammer.

Well the Production legal "drop-in" Hammer Kit PN: 10040 would probably be a slightly better choice.

The Disco 2 upgrade along with SRS-2 Kit and an 85 combat trigger will make your SP01 a really sweet shooter.

[Mr. Patis]

Thanks

[metalhead]

As long as you use the 85 combat trigger and either the Shadow or CZ competition hammer (not the Race hammer with the SP01) and keep all of the safeties intact, you should be good to go for any of the SSP or Production Division classes.

I know you have not competed yet, but trust me, it is way more fun than simple plinking at the range. You should read up on the rules and what gear to get. I model nearly all of my purchases around the stupid gun game rules.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I ordered an SP01 (safety model) from CGW with pro-package and I plan to use it in USPSA in future. So as long as I do not have the race hammer I should be good right? Any rules or restrictions on SA trigger pull-weight? Thanks!

[Starscream]

and keep all of the safeties intact, you should be good to go for any of the SSP or Production Division classes.

What about putting in a shadow upper?


Also whats with all these cz threads, need more vp9 threads imo.

[jinn707]

There are 2 different race hammers - the cgw one and the cz one. If you want to shoot in production division you are limted to the cz race hammer.

Just for reference, it is possible to fit a cgw type 1 disco that gives an even shorter pull than a type 2 disco. However, I don't recommend trying this unless you have some experience modifying your cz.

[himurax13]

What about putting in a shadow upper?


Also whats with all these cz threads, need more vp9 threads imo.

If you get a shadow upper, you should get the firing pin spacer and an extended firing pin for a shadow. You can also utilize the Type 1 or 3 Disco for a shorter reset but some additional fitting may be required. This is a really costly option and SP01 Shadow slide availibility is rather sparse, and has been for years.

With the CGW parts, the difference between a Shadow and a regular SP01 is quite small.

We need more PPQ vs PP9 threads as much as we need the Glock vs 1911 threads.

Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I ordered an SP01 (safety model) from CGW with pro-package and I plan to use it in USPSA in future. So as long as I do not have the race hammer I should be good right? Any rules or restrictions on SA trigger pull-weight? Thanks!

You need the smaller less fancy looking competition hammer that states for USPSA Production use. That is an actual CZ part so that makes it legal for SSP in IDPA as well.

As far as I know there are no restrictions on trigger pull weight but SSP and Production requires you to fire your first shot in Double Action mode. So practicing how to manually decock and how to double tap effectively after drawing from the holster are two skills that will aid you in your journey.

[Junbuster]

like night and day....seriously....

[daybreak]

Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I ordered an SP01 (safety model) from CGW with pro-package and I plan to use it in USPSA in future. So as long as I do not have the race hammer I should be good right? Any rules or restrictions on SA trigger pull-weight? Thanks!

Just an FYI, if you do decide to get the CGW hammer or do a SAO conversion, that just takes you out of the production division. You can always compete in Limited with a single action gun. You'll be shooting minor against a division that favors major (power factor), but so what? I have a shadow for production, and two SAO CZs i shoot in Limited. I have yet to shoot a production match because limited is so fun, and i'm holding my own against the major shooters.

There are also plenty of other competitions that your SAO CZ would do well in, like Steel Challenge or deadwood boys action pistol, or even 3 gun. In these competitions you won't be shooting at a points disadvantage vs shooting minor/major in USPSA.


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[RR.44]

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