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  • Tragic Image
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1055

    Had a Malfunction at the Range

    So I was shooting my full sized M&P 45 at the range today and the last round in the magazine... detonated ? The recoil felt very different, and extremely harsh.

    I had powder burns on my hands, and the magazine follower was forced down into the magazine and cocked over. Originally I thought the follower was cracked and broken.

    When I disassembled there were two small brass nuggets that fell out, most likely from the magazine well area.

    Inspected and cleaned. Function checked, and later shot it again with no problem.


    I think, and this is just me thinking, that I probably loaded a round that has a bullet pushed significantly back into the case. Does that sound reasonable to the other people here?
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    himurax13
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 3895

    Well you probably had a double charge or a case failure.

    Bullet setback could cause what you are describing since that would increase case pressure from the decreased internal volume of the case.

    It is generally not a good idea to chamber and rack bullets out of the gun more than once since it could cause the bullet to move in the cartridge.

    You might want to send it in to the factory to have them verify there are no cracks in the frame, slide, or barrel.
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    • #3
      Carcassonne
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 4897

      What brand ammo?

      Did it fire out of battery?


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      • #4
        'ol shooter
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 4646

        Where did the ammo come from? If it went off before fully chambering, which is sure sounds like it did, I'd suspect a high primer struck in the process of the round being picked up by the slide.
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        • #5
          Tragic Image
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 1055

          Generally if a round goes into my chamber, it's going down range shortly after.
          You Better Brace Yourselves For A Whole Lotta Ugly Comin' At You From A Neverending Parade Of Stupid.

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          • #6
            Tragic Image
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 1055

            Ammo was American Eagle
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            • #7
              teg33
              Veteran Member
              • May 2013
              • 3441

              Do you use factory ammo or reload ?

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              • #8
                Tragic Image
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 1055

                I'll use LAX Ammo for a class, but generally use American Eagle at the range since I have a large reserve of it
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                • #9
                  Jimmybacon43
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 2000

                  Were you able to retrieve the brass from that round? Or did it get lost in the already large pile of range brass?
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                  • #10
                    Tragic Image
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1055

                    We looked for about 5 minutes, but there was no way we were going to find it.

                    It's an all steel plate range with an "always hot" line. Probably 600 pcs of brass on the ground at that point from just our group.
                    You Better Brace Yourselves For A Whole Lotta Ugly Comin' At You From A Neverending Parade Of Stupid.

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                    • #11
                      creampuff
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 3730

                      Make sure your American eagle ammo
                      isn't from this lot.

                      Federal are recalling certain lots of .45 ACP Federal and American Eagle ammunition.They may contain incorrect propellent which could cause a lot of damage to you and your firearm.Certain lots of recently manufactured 45 Auto ammunition may contain an incorrect propellant charge.Use of product from these lots may result in firearm damage and possible serious injury.DO NOT USE PRODUCT FROM THE FOLLOWING LOTS:38X628 through 38X76538T401 through 38T414If you have in your possession any 45 Auto with the following brand names and part numbers, check to see if your ammunition package contains the above lots: American Eagle® (AE45A, AE45N1, or AE45A250), ChampionTM (WM5233), GoldMedal® (GM45B), Hi-Shok® (45C, 45D) and Federal® Personal Defense® (C45C, C45D).



                      There was a recall

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                      • #12
                        uhlan1
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 6217

                        I would think pretty rare but it does happen. Know of a guy who blew up his brand new HK on its first outing with factory ammo. Gun was destroyed but he was ok. Thankfully, you were too.
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                        • #13
                          Tragic Image
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1055

                          Originally posted by creampuff
                          Make sure your American eagle ammo
                          isn't from this lot.

                          Federal are recalling certain lots of .45 ACP Federal and American Eagle ammunition.They may contain incorrect propellent which could cause a lot of damage to you and your firearm.Certain lots of recently manufactured 45 Auto ammunition may contain an incorrect propellant charge.Use of product from these lots may result in firearm damage and possible serious injury.DO NOT USE PRODUCT FROM THE FOLLOWING LOTS:38X628 through 38X76538T401 through 38T414If you have in your possession any 45 Auto with the following brand names and part numbers, check to see if your ammunition package contains the above lots: American Eagle® (AE45A, AE45N1, or AE45A250), ChampionTM (WM5233), GoldMedal® (GM45B), Hi-Shok® (45C, 45D) and Federal® Personal Defense® (C45C, C45D).



                          There was a recall

                          I'm good to go, all this was purchased more recently than 2011
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                          • #14
                            Staticsouls
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 974

                            I had a case failure out of my ria tac once. It was probably the scariest thing that has happened whit any firearm in my experience. The recoil was way different than any of the other rounds, i blew the follower, spring, and base plate straight out of the mag well at high speeds. I was very fortunate not to be cupping the butt of the gun with my off hand as im sure this would have messed me up. It was from an old batch of reloads my now deceased grandpa had loaded, which i dont shoot anymore. Glad you are okay OP check your weapon for damage and get back out there.

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