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  • deserthillbily
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 13

    1911 clone accuracy problem

    I have a llama max1 government only a few years old probably has 400 to 500 rounds thru it as far as reliability goes its never fail to feed or go bang . as far as accuracy goes its terrible maybe worse than terrible i am lucky if i can keep 7 shots on a two foot target at 20 yard or even 15 yards . I am not the best pistol shot but im not that bad i can hold 3 to 5 inch groups at the same distance with 44mag or 357 or 9mm .

    So my question is what is wrong with the gun that could cause this ? and is it fixable ? . i love 1911 style pistols and i would like this one to shoot well but if i can not fix it ill have to get a new pistol . ill take any excuse to buy anew gun lol
  • #2
    Black Majik
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 9695

    Most of the time, I'd say production guns can and will outshoot the shooter. In this case.... probably not so.


    Honestly don't dump money into a Llama. Look into a Rock Island Armory 1911 and sell off the llama.

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    • #3
      Saigon1965
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 17278

      I concur - Look for an RIA or an SA.

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      • #4
        tiko
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 866

        My friend got a cheap one: Auto Ordnance for $450 and still very accurate for years.
        Do it yourself.

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        • #5
          rayra
          Banned
          • Mar 2006
          • 1747

          Four things to check.

          0. It might be you. See if others can wrong better performance from the weapon.
          1. Fit of slide to frame.
          2. fit of barrel bushing to barrel
          3. tightness of barrel lockup with slide.

          Those you can fix fairly inexpensively. And do it yourself if you have a bit of mechanical aptitude.

          After that it's barrel replacement. At which point you are already over the amount of money you should spend on a Llama.

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          • #6
            Moonclip
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 4390

            Originally posted by Black Majik
            Honestly don't dump money into a Llama. Look into a Rock Island Armory 1911 and sell off the llama.
            With I hope the condition he warns a potential purchaser or lets them shoot it 1st. I have a feeling this may be an easy fix. But maybe not.
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            9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
            .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
            .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
            20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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            • #7
              deserthillbily
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 13

              Originally posted by rayra
              Four things to check.

              0. It might be you. See if others can wrong better performance from the weapon.
              1. Fit of slide to frame.
              2. fit of barrel bushing to barrel
              3. tightness of barrel lockup with slide.

              Those you can fix fairly inexpensively. And do it yourself if you have a bit of mechanical aptitude.

              After that it's barrel replacement. At which point you are already over the amount of money you should spend on a Llama.
              the slide fits tight no rattling when you shake it this is probably an extremely noob question but how do i check the other two things properly ? i dont think barrel replacement is possible i read on m1911forums that this llama uses not standard barrel length but numeric does have used barrels for the gun in excellent condition

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              • #8
                SKULLCRUSHER
                Member
                • May 2008
                • 160

                Originally posted by saigon1965
                I concur - Look for an RIA or an SA.
                sorry but what is an SA and what do new RIAs run these days

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                • #9
                  Moonclip
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 4390

                  SA=Springfield Armory,someof their base models seem to be not too expensive. RIA's these days seem to be around $400ish. Llamas can be found from $2-300 sometimes.
                  .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                  7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                  9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                  .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                  .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                  20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                  • #10
                    Moonclip
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 4390

                    SA=Springfield Armory,someof their base models seem to be not too expensive. RIA's these days seem to be around $400ish. Llamas can be found from $2-300 sometimes.
                    .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                    7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                    9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                    .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                    .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                    20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                    • #11
                      Moonclip
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 4390

                      SA=Springfield Armory,someof their base models seem to be not too expensive. RIA's these days seem to be around $400ish. Llamas can be found from $2-300 sometimes.
                      .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                      7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                      9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                      .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                      .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                      20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                      • #12
                        Moonclip
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4390

                        SA= Springfield Armory, some of their entry level models are inexpensive.

                        RIA's tend to be $400ish, I want a .38super one possibly.

                        Llamas seem to sell around $200-300.
                        .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                        7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                        9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                        .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                        .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                        20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

                        Comment

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