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  • SanDiegoJoe760
    Junior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2014
    • 91

    Nice grouping... NOT (Round 2 Post #26; Final Update Post #40)

    I put another 150 rounds through my 92FS today with much better results. The first 300 I just wanted to put through the pistol without much technique, just pure exhilaration, reminded me of my twenties...

    A couple things are evident, I am very awkward with my offhand, my thumb is up by the slide release, then its interfering with my trigger finger, then I'm tucking it in like a fist.

    It was at the first line in Iron Sights, ~20' I imagine.

    I was still plenty wild on the first 50:

    I was shooting a backwards Z (Red - Blue - Aqua - Green - Yellow). I lost a red round in the middle somewhere... Low and to the left was my name last time, was looking to pan out that way. I keep rushing it but I slowed down on the last three.

    Second 50:

    Same order. Rushing it and shooting low again. Slowed down on the last three. I found myself focusing on the target instead of the front sight. Made an effort not to.

    Last 50:

    I was making an effort to shoot just a hair higher, it is a little non-intuitive to cover the sight with the dot on the sight, but that is a me thing. Unloaded a few out of another mag on the little symbol below which are those errant shots.

    In just 100 rounds I really feel like I reigned it in a lot and was pleased. Any other pointers to try and keep in my mind while at the range would be appreciated.

    After the first sheet I was ready to throw up my hands and declare defective, remark how the sights are off and flame my beautiful Beretta. Slowing down a little bit really helped, and my offhand settled down but it still isnt comfortable. Ill be practicing that with my snapcaps in the living room, but nothing replaces that boom!

    Oh, the suggestion of both foam ear plugs and over the ear plugs worked great. I do believe it made a huge difference. Also I was pleased that the group before me had a lady and the gentleman behind the counter told them that most woman preferred to use both.

    WTB pink handgrips for a 92FS... /scarcasm
    Last edited by SanDiegoJoe760; 11-19-2014, 11:26 AM. Reason: Title update...
  • #2
    someoneeasy
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2372

    Not bad, definitely looks like you're improving, that's all that matters. Keep at it and take your time.

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    • #3
      Erion929
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 4706

      There are a lot of YouTube shooting tip videos on grip, stance, sight alignment, and trigger control......FREE. I spent probably 3 hours watching them before my first handgun range trip and I shot 1" groups at 7 yds....and I'm 58 yrs. old. Stop wasting all your ammo without purpose .

      Low and left usually means you're squeezing too hard with your dominant ring/pinky fingers and PULLING/Jerking the trigger, instead of "pressing" it.

      Press the trigger straight back, don't anticipate the break. A hint I found helpful is line up your sights, then imagine "pulling" the front sight back through the two halves of the rear sight as you press the trigger.
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      • #4
        static2126
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2013
        • 5619

        Yes watch some free training videos or get professional instruction. If those groups are it 7 yards or so you are wasting ammo and reinforcing bad habits over time. Nice gun though

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        • #5
          deephouse
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 3858

          OP, is yours the snowman sights?

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          • #6
            SanDiegoJoe760
            Junior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Oct 2014
            • 91

            Originally posted by deephouse
            OP, is yours the snowman sights?
            Yeah, I imagine you mean the three white dot sights.

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            • #7
              dyson
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 4342

              not bad OP, start closer (5 to 7 yards) until you can shoot out the entire orange center easily.

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              • #8
                Tok36
                Veteran Member
                • May 2013
                • 3061

                Nice Avitar OP, took me a second. I found these videos helpful.


                Vive La Exile Machine!!
                Link--> CZ 75B -vs- CZ 75 SP-01 Comparison
                Link--> CGW Type 3 Disco fitting fun
                Link--> What is a CZ Tactical sport?
                Will work for CZ Pics!

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                • #9
                  SanDiegoJoe760
                  Junior Member
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 91

                  Originally posted by Tok36
                  Nice Avitar OP, took me a second. I found these videos helpful.


                  Yeah, I am trying to go undercover nerd with my avatar, nothing like the holodeck with the safety protocol turned off! =]

                  I dont believe we can embed GIF's, check this one out:



                  That first vid with Shannon was fantastic. Ive watched 30+ vids and most do 30 seconds on grip. This one is 8 minutes on grip and explaining why you hold it this way as well.

                  Range today? Yes.

                  Thanks!

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                  • #10
                    Voo
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1702

                    I think you missed the point on Shannon's first video... in the first minute he even states how grip relates more to speed than to accuracy.. Having the proper grip allows you to get the gun back on target faster- it doesn't translate into shooting more accurately per se..
                    Aloha snackbar!

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                    • #11
                      davidwow
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 798

                      Keep practicing, but don't shoot so much that you get tired and develop bad habits. I heard that you don't want to shoot more than 100 rounds at t atone ahen you are first starting and learning. I sucked yards with a 92fs, I'm much better with a CZ for some reason. It wasn't the guns fault though lots of people shoot it plenty accurate.

                      The CZ is a lot more comfortable in the hand for me.

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                      • #12
                        JackRydden224
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 7229

                        Wait, did you shoot those groups with your dominate hand or off hand?

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                        • #13
                          SanDiegoJoe760
                          Junior Member
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 91

                          Originally posted by JackRydden224
                          Wait, did you shoot those groups with your dominate hand or off hand?
                          Dominant, I was just never comfortable with my off hand. I know the large problems with my grip, as well as incorrectly pulling the trigger, causing my pinkey to rotate the barrel down-left.

                          I guess all the video's I watched went right out the window with excitement, but my offhand wasn't even touching the grip. I was getting a s-ton of flip and was never comfortable with my grip. I am practicing a lot at home with the DA pull and a snapcap, trying to keep the pistol as steady as possible.

                          It may behoove me to get an hour of instruction.

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                          • #14
                            Justintoxicated
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3836

                            tisk tisk, don't you know that everyone on calguns can shoot 1" groups at 20 yards, oh and we only bang 10's too.

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                            • #15
                              iluvmycolt
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 3247

                              From looking at your targets, looks like you're improving OP. With more practice you'll get better, hopefully

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