CZ P-01 Magazine Issues

[iareConfusE]

Wondering if any of you that have this gun have the same "issue" that I am having with my magazines/gun. This is the 2nd P-01 I have owned and I don't recall having similar problems with my 1st one.

Basically what is happening is when I am slowly inserting the magazine, the rim of the cartridge is getting caught on the decocker/sear assembly. It does not matter the OAL of the round, Federal Hydrashoks (long) and my own reloads (short) both have the same issue. The gun functions perfectly once the magazine is inserted, and the problem is almost unnoticeable if you slam the magazine in with enough force, but the fact that it is getting caught on a lip at all is concerning to me.

Before I decide to contact CZ and submit a repair request, I wanted to see if there was anything I should try, or if anyone had any similar experiences as I am having.





In this image you can see how chewed up the rim is from me having to forcefully insert the magazine.

[Tok36]

I have never seen this, i an not an expert but i am guessing that something is out of kilter.

Dose this happen with multiple magazines? Is the pistol in stock configuration? How dose the pistol function?

Nice pictures btw. I think i would be sending CZ USA those pictures.

Edit: I went and checked one of mine and its darn a darn close fit. The back of the mag and the rim of the top cartridge almost hit the bottem of the sear cage when inserted. So a small tweek or force from the rite direction can cause the magazine or top cartridge to contact the sear cage when inserted. I cannot say i ever noticed this before, witch leads me to believe that it may not effect function.

Regardless i am interested to hear what els you find out.

Edit 2 : Out of curiosity i checked a few more of my CZ's. And while at first your pictures seamed strange, i am now under the impression that this is normal. If the pistol functions and no problem arise, go shoot it.

[Euphoria526]

Or as the rest of Calguns says.
Of it shoots flawlessly. Forgetaboutit

[BenHa]

Mine does the same thing but I didn't noticed until you told me. This happen with all of my 10 CZ mags.

[iareConfusE]

I have never seen this, i an not an expert but i am guessing that something is out of kilter.

Dose this happen with multiple magazines? Is the pistol in stock configuration? How dose the pistol function?

Nice pictures btw. I think i would be sending CZ USA those pictures.

Edit: I went and checked one of mine and its darn a darn close fit. The back of the mag and the rim of the top cartridge almost hit the bottem of the sear cage when inserted. So a small tweek or force from the rite direction can cause the magazine or top cartridge to contact the sear cage when inserted. I cannot say i ever noticed this before, witch leads me to believe that it may not effect function.

Regardless i am interested to hear what els you find out.

Yes, this happens with both of the magazines that my CZ came with, and the pistol is 100% factory spec.

I had mentioned earlier that yes, the pistol functions flawlessly, but as a "combat" pistol it doesn't seem like something that should be considered acceptable, regardless of it's effect (or lack thereof) on proper function.

After a little bit more discussion from other P-01 owners chiming in, I will bring this thread to the attention of CZ-USA. I wonder if this is a phenomenon with SP-01s and other 75 variants as well?

[Tok36]

Yes, this happens with both of the magazines that my CZ came with, and the pistol is 100% factory spec.

I had mentioned earlier that yes, the pistol functions flawlessly, but as a "combat" pistol it doesn't seem like something that should be considered acceptable, regardless of it's effect (or lack thereof) on proper function.

After a little bit more discussion from other P-01 owners chiming in, I will bring this thread to the attention of CZ-USA. I wonder if this is a phenomenon with SP-01s and other 75 variants as well?

I think your concern is reasonable. But you may end up finding out that this is standard. I have put many thousands of rounds through my CZ's at this point without ever noticing this.

I am still curious to see what els becomes of your inquiry. It is possible that your is contacting more than normal. As to your question , one of the ones i cheked was my SP-01 and it was very close to the situation in your pictures. We are dealing with differences in the thousandths. Anyway your better off if it is normal, then you don't have anything to fix . Sure did surprise me for a minute there, shows you what i know.

[iareConfusE]

I think you're right about the tolerances off just by a thousandth.

Thanks for checking your guns

[BenHa]

I think you're right about the tolerances off just by a thousandth.

Thanks for checking your guns

Mine seems more excessive then yours after looking at your pic

http://i.imgur.com/DYeJzl8.jpg

[Tok36]

I think you're right about the tolerances off just by a thousandth.

Thanks for checking your guns

Any time. Let us know how things turn out.

[iareConfusE]

Mine seems more excessive then yours after looking at your pic


http://i.imgur.com/DYeJzl8.jpg

Ah that does look a bit more severe, maybe mine would look like that if i pushed the round all the way towards the back of the mag... does this concern you at all?

[CAGLS]

Could be that sear cage is off tolerance. Give CZ USA a call and send the pics. It needs to be detail stripped to get to see what is off.

[BenHa]

Ah that does look a bit more severe, maybe mine would look like that if i pushed the round all the way towards the back of the mag... does this concern you at all?

Before you started this thread nope, but after you started this thread I might as well get it 'fixed' under warranty.

[iareConfusE]

Ignorance is bliss and all

[jpx0123]

never noticed. but just checked mine and using a snap cap not as close as OP's but mine does graze that area as well. only have 50 rounds through but so far flawless.

[iareConfusE]

Well, I emailed cz-usa a fairly detailed description of the issue with pictures and all. All they could say to me was "if you want, you can send it in and we can take a look".

I don't think they looked at the pictures or the thread even once, and they offered not even a slight bit of insight. Also they tell me the turn around time will be 4 to 6 weeks...