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  • #31
    tnlrat37
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2166

    I got my wife a g42, I liked it alot more than I thought. It is very easy to shoot and very little recoil. With that said I'd like to try the shield. If I don't like it ill probly go with a g26.
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    • #32
      jb octane
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 856

      All I know about the G42 is I naturally point it at the stars. That hump seems comfortable but I have to completely adjust to use it as a "point and aim" and that's not something I want in a self-defense gun.

      I had an XDs and loved it but for the price I've seen CA legal Shields go for I would get one of those instead. There just isn't enough of a difference for me to quantify paying upwards of a $125 more for an XDs.

      Oops, did I say $125? I guess it is actually closer to $200.
      Last edited by jb octane; 10-28-2014, 9:57 AM.

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      • #33
        Click Boom
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2013
        • 6955

        I like the xds a lot more than the shield.

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        • #34
          Killer Bee
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 2196

          I ignore the g42 just the same as I ignore the lc380 I bought by mistake [let my guard down for one visit ] that is still sitting in the turner's shopping bag in the safe for almost a year now..

          absolutely no purpose for me [6' 225lbs] to carry a 380 in nearly the same envelope as a 45.. I will only compromise stopping power with a smaller caliber to suit my attire to maintain concealability with a measurably smaller gun where I otherwise might not be able to carry properly [notice the significant size difference in my bodyguard compared to my xds..

          there are applications for the g42 or other larger framed 380 pistols.. folks with less dexterity or weaker hands [not bashing them, I have aging parents too] that may need a larger gun to handle comfortably combined with the lighter shooting characteristics of a smaller caliber.. but no need in my line up whatsoever..

          prices are almost non-comparable with these off roster guns.. I paid $329 for bodyguard and $550 shipped for the xds 45 with all those mags, leather holster, and robar grip [lightly used and well cared for by an officer].. I've seen the gammet for all of these guns being discussed so I throw price out the window since they all probably msr within $100-$200 of each other..

          I think people should just take the g42 for what it is and stop trying to compare it to the whole field of smaller, more concealable, and larger caliber guns available..


          Length: G42 = 5.94", XD-S = 6.3"

          Height: G42 = 4.13", XD-S = 4.4"

          Width: G42 = .84" (slide), XD-S = .9" (grip)

          Weight: G42 = 13.4 oz. (empty), XD-S = 21.5 oz. (with flush mag)

          Mag: G42 = 6+1, XD-S = 5+1

          Caliber: G42 = .380 ACP, XD-S = .45 ACP



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          • #35
            Libtard
            Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 437

            Shield vs glock 42 vs xds

            Originally posted by Steve1968LS2
            But I can have a gun that's equal in size, but with 9mm..



            .380 is a sacrifice you make in order to have a smaller gun.. the G42 is sized like a sub-compact 9mm, but chambered in .380



            So, I too don't "get it" with the gun.. I would rather carry a Shield or Nano in 9mm.. the G42 would have been epic in 9mm..
            I suppose what it boils down to is that the Glock 42 is an excellent choice for concealable self-defense for someone who doesn't want a lot of recoil. In comparing it to the .45 XDS pistol, or even a 9mm, you have to consider who will use it. I personally would not use an ultra-compact .45 for self-defense because they are, literally, deafeningly loud, and the recoil of a small, large-cal weapon, especially under stress, makes secondary shot placement very challenging.

            Every expert places shot placement over everything else. The larger frame and smaller caliber of the Glock 42 allow a lot of owners better accuracy.

            I practice often at a range, but if I were to stop an attacker with a gun, the circumstances would be very different from the range. Especially if I were to recommend something for a lady or a man who doesn't want to put in a hundred hours at a range, the Glock 42 makes a lot of sense.
            Last edited by Libtard; 10-30-2014, 10:08 AM.

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            • #36
              Sledge
              Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 277

              Originally posted by ad40
              Which one do you prefer for CCW and why?

              Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
              Shield. Why? In order, Caliber+Price +Quality. Although I think they are all excellent choices.

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              • #37
                Mwfillmore
                Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 258

                OP. What guns do you normally shoot. If the majority of the pistols you've carried in the past, or done any training with are Glocks... like me... it made a lot of sense to go with g42. That way you dont end up pointing at the ground with your first sight picture. I have a keltec p3at (for summer day swimsuit carry). I throw way more lead down range accurately with my g 42 vs my p3at. As far as the shield and xds. You are comparing apples and oranges. I prefer to carry my Glock 23 everywhere i go (13+1)... I just picked up a glock 42 because I feel far more comfortable with it than the smaller .380's and it is way easier to conceal than my 23

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                • #38
                  Richard@CSTactical
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2014
                  • 69

                  Originally posted by DRAB_81
                  Just because you can get a smaller gun in the same caliber, doesn't mean you should. The G42 is slightly bigger than the LCP, but it's significantly easier to shoot. There is always a balance between size & control with CCW guns, and as far as 380 CCW guns go, I think the G42 is the perfect balance.

                  I have no experience with the XDs, but I did have a Shield for a while. Although they are thin, they aren't really all that small. I was hoping the slimness of the Shield would make it easier to conceal, but that wasn't the case for me. I carry AIWB, and the Shield did NOT conceal any better for me than my G19. It was an easy decision for me to ditch the Shield (15+1 vs 8+1 & the G19 is significantly easier to shoot fast).

                  I agree with this, and I own and G42 which will be my smallest carry gun that I'll occasionally carry. The XDs was a great shooting gun but It's too big for pocket carry for me, if I'm carrying in my waist I'll stick with my G19 or even a 17.


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                  • #39
                    Nrai2020
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 2342

                    Bump... Thinking of getting a g42

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                    • #40
                      Tovarish
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 1615

                      Originally posted by Nrai2020
                      Bump... Thinking of getting a g42
                      Don't. Unless you love Glocks.

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                      • #41
                        mafbloggerdanny
                        Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 412

                        why not get one. with SSE ending, I doubt it's going to lose it's resale value anytime soon. There are already some fools out there trying to hock theirs for $700 PPT

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                        • #42
                          XDmax
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 611

                          XDs and SHIELD are very close in my book. I picked up a SHIELD because it comes in a .40
                          Wish they had a XDs in .40
                          My next gun will be a XDs 9mm

                          Not a fan of the g42
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                          • #43
                            FNH5-7
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 9402

                            Shield vs Glock 42 vs XDs

                            Op, more like Shield vs XDs in my book. The G42 .380 is more closely matched to the Ruger LCP .380, the Colt Mustang .380 and the Sig Sauer P238 .380.

                            If weight is an issue and is super important to you, go with the shield.

                            If price is an issue, even though the price gap between these two pistols has shortened over the past few months, get the shield.

                            The weight of the XDs definitely helps me get better groups compared to the shield, there is less of a snap on the heavier XDs.

                            Put a Shield and an XDs side by side, ignore the price and you will walk out with an XDS. While they both are equally reliable, the craftsmanship of the XDs is superior.
                            Last edited by FNH5-7; 11-14-2014, 2:27 AM.
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                            • #44
                              XDmax
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 611

                              Originally posted by Colt-45
                              Shield vs Glock 42 vs XDs

                              Op, more like Shield vs XDs in my book. The G42 .380 is more closely matched to the Ruger LCP .380, the Colt Mustang .380 or the Sig Sauer P238 .380.

                              If weight is an issue and is super important to you, go with the shield.

                              If price is an issue, even though the price gap between these two pistols has shortened over the past few months, get the shield.

                              The weight of the XDs definitely helps me get better groups compared to the shield.

                              Put a Shield and an XDs side by side, ignore the price and you will walk out with an XDS. While they both are equally reliable, the craftsmanship of the XDs is superior.

                              II have to agree with you
                              IF YOU BUY ANY BULK AMMO FROM LAX AMMO, YOU BETTER COUNT THE ROUNDS. I WAS SHORTED BY THEM.
                              v v v v v v
                              http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1003656
                              NRA/IDPA (Prado)
                              SA XDm 5.25 .40 SA XDm 5.25 9mm
                              SA XDm 3.8c .40 SA 1911 Range Officer .45
                              SA XD Tactical .40 SA XD SC .40
                              M&P SHIELD .40 M&P .45 M&P 40c G23/G35 .40

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                              • #45
                                Killer Bee
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 2196

                                Originally posted by Colt-45
                                Shield vs Glock 42 vs XDs

                                Op, more like Shield vs XDs in my book. The G42 .380 is more closely matched to the Ruger LCP .380, the Colt Mustang .380 and the Sig Sauer P238 .380.

                                If weight is an issue and is super important to you, go with the shield.

                                If price is an issue, even though the price gap between these two pistols has shortened over the past few months, get the shield.

                                The weight of the XDs definitely helps me get better groups compared to the shield, there is less of a snap on the heavier XDs.

                                Put a Shield and an XDs side by side, ignore the price and you will walk out with an XDS. While they both are equally reliable, the craftsmanship of the XDs is superior.
                                the g42 shares only one similarity with the lcp [and bodyguard likewise], mustang, and p238.. caliber..

                                as the primary purpose for compromising stopping power with the 380 would seem to be concealability, the g42 pales in comparison to most other compact 380 pistols in that aspect.. my xds 45 is only small fractions larger than a g42 but substantially larger than my bodyguard [again, and the lcp likewise]..

                                the shield, xds, etc. debates are far more valid for caliber [stopping power] vs concealability.. the finer details of fit, function, trigger, etc. seem to sort the rest out to the specific shooter.. I personally don't seem to have much issue with any of the several I've fired and qualified with.. they all suit me with more than acceptable accuracy for close range defense..

                                like I mentioned, I prefer to carry the largest caliber that fits my attire.. I haven't met a 45 of any size I didn't like,, they just don't always fit my attire
                                Last edited by Killer Bee; 11-14-2014, 3:00 AM.
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