New! What is the 'best' pocketable, 9mm or .380 NON-rostered gun that can be SSE?

[cnj]

Until the frame breaks and Ruger won't warranty it because it's an off roster gun.

I haven't heard of an issue with the frames on the LCP (maybe the first gen guns????). Not exactly a gun you would want to throw a ton of rounds down range with every week anyway. Besides, the OP asked specifically for a non-rostered recommendation.

[ifilef]

I haven't heard of an issue with the frames on the LCP (maybe the first gen guns????). Not exactly a gun you would want to throw a ton of rounds down range with every week anyway. Besides, the OP asked specifically for a non-rostered recommendation.

WADR cnj, I don't see Ruger LCP on the Roster.

There's not much of a sight picture with the LCP, correct?

[cnj]

WADR cnj, I don't see Ruger LCP on the Roster.

There's not much of a sight picture with the LCP, correct?

Yup. Not on the roster. Thought that was what you were lookin for: "New! What is the 'best' pocketable, 9mm or .380 NON-rostered gun that can be SSE?"

The gen 2 guns have larger/better sights and thus a (slightly) better sight picture.

My apologies if I am confused about the roster requirement.....

[ifilef]

Yup. Not on the roster. Thought that was what you were lookin for: "New! What is the 'best' pocketable, 9mm or .380 NON-rostered gun that can be SSE?"

The gen 2 guns have larger/better sights and thus a (slightly) better sight picture.

My apologies if I am confused about the roster requirement.....

There are two concurrent threads running.

The earlier one I started sought Rostered guns that were the 'best'.

This thread seeks those that are NON-Rostered guns that were the 'best'.

I think that I misinterpreted your quoted post. In any event, this post clairifies for others.

Whoever here mentioned the LCP was correct in doing so, as it is non-rostered (not on the current CA Roster).

Cheers,

[Capt1776]

Another vote for the P938.

[Germz]

238 or 938

[straykiller]

One more for the 938, or 238

[MajorSideburns]

Buds:

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Confirmed. Thanks!

Any suggestions as to online FFL who will?

i did not know this, thanks. will add them to my personal blacklist along with cheaperthandirt, and will never do any business with them again.

[esp1]

.380 it would be the LCP gen 2. Light, thin, small. Very pocketable.
P238 is nice but bigger and heavier all around.

9mm would be m&p shield but I hardly call it pocketable. Maybe Glock's single stack 9mm if it comes out before its too late.

[LBDamned]

Wow, that is a revelation! I will check out its dimensions..

Thank you for the comment!

Later: They appear to be about the same size.

Whereas I feel the Shield FITS okay for pocket carry, it is a bit too heavy loaded for the pocket.

The XDs is even HEAVIER than the Shield! Check video at 4:35 onward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEWaKevY8o

So, the XDs does not interest me at all re pocket carry. Too bad that I will miss out on the magazine promotion.

Thanks for the 'heads-up'!

I have Shield and XD-S... wouldn't consider either of them pocket pistols (but they both conceal well IWB and CCW shirt...

P938 is a great pocket pistol and other than backpack, thats the only way I carry it.

YMMV

[EGrove]

I haven't heard of an issue with the frames on the LCP (maybe the first gen guns????). Not exactly a gun you would want to throw a ton of rounds down range with every week anyway. Besides, the OP asked specifically for a non-rostered recommendation.

Think I read some where that an LCP rental went through 34k rounds before having to be sent back to Ruger. If that's not durable, I don't know what is . How much would 34k rounds of .380 be, and does anyone put that many rounds through one gun in their lifetime?

[Troy35]

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Kimber Solo. Not the most comfortable to shoot, but very small and light. Very comfortable to carry. Ambi safety and mag release. It's expensive and it wants to feed expensive ammo, but it's a CCW gun not a pistol for shooting all day at the range. Of course, you will have to shoot it a lot until you have learned it well.

[ifilef]

I think the P938 and P238 have a lot going for them in many respects.

The downside is price, and that one must disengage thumb safety AFTER withdrawing them from the pocket. Also, some don't like a 1911 that is so small.

Do they have grip safeties? Some people don't really care for Condition 1 carry without a grip safety.

Some people prefer no safety at all for pocket carry, e.g., CW380, P380, Glock 42, etc.

[ifilef]

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Kimber Solo. Not the most comfortable to shoot, but very small and light. Very comfortable to carry. Ambi safety and mag release. It's expensive and it wants to feed expensive ammo, but it's a CCW gun not a pistol for shooting all day at the range. Of course, you will have to shoot it a lot until you have learned it well.

Some have been 'soured' in getting one due to what appears to be a lot of criticism on the internet (take it or leave it) re reliability, which you have in effect mentioned.

It looks fine, but pricey.

[shatter]

People might consider stating an OFF-roster Shield (without mag disconnect, and with or without thumb safety) is the best 9mm pocketable handgun so there's no misunderstandings.

+1, yesterday while at my LGS waiting in line to pick up my new CZ97BD, the gun shop owner had this very same conversation with the people in front of me. They wanted an easy carry 9mm for the guy's wife. The owner of the gun shop pointed out the differences between the on and off-roster versions and they chose to go with SSE-ing the off-roster version for all the reasons you stated.