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  • Dattebayo
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 2344

    CZ 75B SAO Conversion Review

    CZ 75B CGW Conversion


    Just picked up my CZ 75B yesterday and did the CGW parts conversion. Went out and shot it today and I am absolutely impressed!

    First off, the fit and finish of this particular handgun was rather good out of the box. The trigger wasn't too bad either, but only so much can be expected out of a DA/SA firearm.


    To do the conversion, I replaced the trigger, hammer, and sear with a CZC Tactical Sport straight trigger, CGW race hammer and adjustable sear kit. I also removed the firing pin block and the firing pin block lifter, which significantly reduced the reset of the trigger. I also removed the disconnector which made it single action only.

    Just like all my other CZ's, this one is no different. The recoil is easy to manage and light with great reliability with no failures during my range session. I find that my CZ's often have a 6 o'clock hold and from my target, you can see that with the grouping with it shooting a little on the high side. I may get a taller sight post in the future to make the sight picture a more of a combat hold.

    10-Shot Group

    The difficulty of the conversion was definitely more hard than working on say a striker fire pistol like an M&P. Because the older trigger system of the 75 series CZ's, they have more parts thus making it more difficult to work on than the CZ P-07 which I have ample experience with.

    With that aside, the hardest part was definitely managing the springs in the trigger and setting it in the proper position to drive the trigger pin into the frame. Even so, with slave pins, it made the job that is manageable, but at times, I wish I had a third hand.

    Aside from that issue, removing the pins in the hammer for the hammer strut and the disconnector were extremely difficult. I purchased the starter punch from CGW and the tip of even that started to peen from the pressure required to remove the pin. At the end of the day, I was only able to push the hammer strut pin far enough to remove the strut, but I completely bent a steel punch trying to remove the hammer strut pin, so I just gave up on the pin and used the trigger slave pin as a replacement pin for the hammer strut on the new hammer. The trigger slave pin fit inside the hammer strut punch hole with finger pressure, but since this part of the hammer is enclosed in the frame, there is no risk of the pin falling out. This is actually how the CZ P-07's are as well, as it is much easier to remove the pins in the hammer on their polymer models.


    The new trigger is really nice and I like the flat trigger a lot. Aside from looking pretty sweet in the frame, it functions rather well. I purchased the CZC Tactical Sport trigger because CGW were out of their triggers with pre and post travel. The trigger adjustments are awesome and really allows you to remove the take up and the post travel of the trigger. With the FPB and the FPB lifter removed, the trigger movement is decreased to 2mm, and the reset is right where the trigger actually rests. To fill the space that is left with the FPB lifter removed, CGW offers a spacer that costs only $1.50.


    With the adjustable sear, it allows the manual safety to work properly with the new hammer and trigger system. Opposed to what most people think the adjustable sear is, it isn't to adjust the breaking point, but solely to ensure the safety works. I find this screw actually is loosely fitted into the sear and required a bit of lock-tie in order to not walk out. Even without an a seat that you can adjust the breaking point, the CGW seat is certainly great where it is set. It will rival any custom gun on its breaking point and performance.

    With that said, the firearm was a lot easier to work on than originally expected. But after everything is said and done, the only thing I would have done differently was get pins for the hammer strut and disconnector if I was going to use it. I'll be sure to do that when I upgrade my P-01. For all the modifications, the end costs on top of the firearm was $249.

    Last edited by Dattebayo; 10-17-2014, 9:54 PM.
  • #2
    railroader
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3115

    Nice write up. My 75 sa is set up similar except I have the cz custom hammer. On the sights I think there are just one size front front sight but there are different height rears. If you remove the rear sight they are numbered. The higher the number the taller the sight. I think they are .010" difference in height between numbers if I remember right.

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    • #3
      BEE
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 2904

      Great review! I need to add a 75B to my CZ family soon

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      • #4
        Tok36
        Veteran Member
        • May 2013
        • 3061

        Nice DB! Thanks for the coverage. I am thinking about going SA with the flat or CZ SA trigger on my 85 Combat. I have found over time that the over travel set screws have less of an affect than i originally thought. You can only eliminate a small portion of the over travel without over adjusting and damaging the hammer hooks while you shoot. They have to be backed out far enough so the hammer hooks clear the sear for the hammers complete travel. Otherwise the top of the hammer hooks rub on the underside of the sear while the hammer cycles and the top of the hooks get worn down. It depends on the particular CZ but i get very little out of the 2 i have while maintaing hammer hook clearance.


        That is one short reset. Great pics as always. May it shoot well.
        Last edited by Tok36; 10-17-2014, 9:53 PM.
        Vive La Exile Machine!!
        Link--> CZ 75B -vs- CZ 75 SP-01 Comparison
        Link--> CGW Type 3 Disco fitting fun
        Link--> What is a CZ Tactical sport?
        Will work for CZ Pics!

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        • #5
          Dattebayo
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 2344

          Originally posted by railroader
          Nice write up. My 75 sa is set up similar except I have the cz custom hammer. On the sights I think there are just one size front front sight but there are different height rears. If you remove the rear sight they are numbered. The higher the number the taller the sight. I think they are .010" difference in height between numbers if I remember right.
          That may be the ticket I am looking for. All though I would need a shorter rear sight, which maybe difficult to find. Might go with an adjustable rear.

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          • #6
            mikereyes
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 140

            Very nice! Might have to add one of these bad boys to my collection soon.

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            • #7
              Canadadry
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 1065

              DB: Can you provide a list of CZ that you can convert to SAO.

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              • #8
                Dattebayo
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 2344

                Originally posted by Canadadry
                DB: Can you provide a list of CZ that you can convert to SAO.
                You can convert any CZ that has a safety. Decocker models can be converted but will require a bit of modification in order to do so. The cost of the modification would make it cheaper to just buy a safety modeled CZ, which is what I opted to do. This excluded all omega trigger CZ's as their design is different than the older 75 design.

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                • #9
                  viet4lifeOC
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 4887

                  OP,

                  Can you do a SAO conversion on a CZ 75 SP-01 with thumb safety?

                  I applaud your know how...want to do it myself, but know better . Would send to CGW but it's cist prohibitive.

                  Nice job in your part.
                  Last edited by viet4lifeOC; 10-17-2014, 11:56 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Dattebayo
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 2344

                    Originally posted by viet4lifeOC
                    OP,

                    Can you do a SAO conversion on a CZ 75 SP-01 with thumb safety?

                    I applaud your know how...want to do it myself, but know better . Would send to CGW but it's cist prohibitive.

                    Nice job in your part.
                    Yes you can covert a SP-01 with a thumb safety. It should be an easy job to do with some mechanical aptitude. The steps would be the same as my 75B.

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                    • #11
                      CAGLS
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3657

                      I use my heavy ball and peen hammer with the CGW starter punch to remove those staked in hammer pins. Recently on a newer production SP-01 I was surprised the pins weren't staked in and just pushed out with a punch.
                      Last edited by CAGLS; 10-18-2014, 1:45 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Cedone12
                        Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 484

                        Thanks for the write up!!! I'm wanting to Sse one more before the years out. I'm praying that a shadow custom with full dust cover come in stock with out the czc srt. I highly doubt it so I'm looking to get a regular spo1 from
                        Somewhere and have it converted, eventually. Again, thanks for the clean write up!!!

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                        • #13
                          ohhgourami
                          Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 138

                          I'm glad you were able to remove the hammer pins. Told you it's not too bad!

                          Interestingly, I think the SA on mine is not too different from yours. Goes to show that David at CGW has done an amazing job with his parts.

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                          • #14
                            mievil
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1788

                            Originally posted by viet4lifeOC
                            OP,

                            Can you do a SAO conversion on a CZ 75 SP-01 with thumb safety?

                            I applaud your know how...want to do it myself, but know better . Would send to CGW but it's cist prohibitive.

                            Nice job in your part.
                            Yes, you can do the SAO conversion on a thumb safety SP-01. I think that is probably the the thing done most to SP-01s. I just can't for the life of me figure out why someone would want a DA safety gun. To get it to DA mode, you literally have to drop the hammer on a loaded chamber. Not a big deal, but ideal? Not for me.



                            I personally found the regular SA trigger to be better than the flat one. The flat one sure looks cool, but the SA trigger feels better in my hand.

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