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  • avdrummerboy
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 95

    Good first gun

    Hey all, I still have like a year before I am even eligible to purchase a handgun (which is too bad with the country going communist on us and all economically speaking )

    Anyway, when the time comes (and I know that this will be VERY opinionated) but what is a good first gun. I do plan on using it for self defense, I am a fan of Glocks and the 45 caliber, but just to hear your ideas.

    Thanks in advance.
    http://paulkrwe.blogspot.com/



    On killing in self defense: I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

    I would also rather my friends and family come visit me in prison than come to visit my grave.
  • #2
    goathead
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 3601

    how about a ruger

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    • #3
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44094

      For a first gun, you can't go wrong with a .22lr bolt action rifle with iron sights. Yes, I'm serious. That way you can cheaply develop good shooting techniques. For a first handgun, again I'd go with a .22lr, this time a revolver. As far as centerfire pistols go, look at 1911s. There's a reason the design has stood the test of time! You can pick up a slightly used Kimber Classic for about the same price as a new Glock 21 if you shop around a bit and you will be happier with the 1911!
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      • #4
        kalieracer
        Veteran Member
        • May 2008
        • 2987

        Originally posted by avdrummerboy
        Hey all, I still have like a year before I am even eligible to purchase a handgun (which is too bad with the country going communist on us and all economically speaking )

        Anyway, when the time comes (and I know that this will be VERY opinionated) but what is a good first gun. I do plan on using it for self defense, I am a fan of Glocks and the 45 caliber, but just to hear your ideas.

        Thanks in advance.
        .45 for a First gun... Can you afford to feed it? CZ's are great. Glock is a good choice too.

        "Gawd, asks a qustion, gets two good answers, denies/ still doesn't get it.

        This is the kinda person that shouldn't be building things- go store bought.
        Bill Wiese"

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        • #5
          WhoDat
          Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 296

          I agree with the .22 comments. You get to blow-off a lot of rounds, and do it in laces where larger calibers wouldn't be appreciated.

          I'd say go with a Ruger 10/22. I guess it could be a self-defense weapon in a pinch, but it's really about plinking and getting good with a gun.
          I like to kill stuff and eat it.

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          • #6
            ontmark
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 1237

            IMOP and $.02 worth
            I am old school.

            I really believe anyone’s first handgun should be
            a wheel gun in 357 with a 3 to 4 inch barrel
            3 to 4 inch good for the range, packing camping,
            and home defense.

            Why a wheel gun?
            You take so much out of possibilities of error.
            1. Very easy to unload when needed
            2. A lot easier to clean for the new shooter.
            3. Can practice both double action and single trigger pull.
            4. A lot less malfunctions to deal with while shooting.

            The semi auto issues for new shooter
            1. Harder to clean
            2. Time to shoot. Magazine in, pull slide back off slide stop and let slide forward to load, tries to shoot. Nothing happens. Slide did not go into full battery. So new shooter thinks ok pistol didn’t strip round from Magazine. Cycles slide to load pistol and finds live round being ejected from pistol. First response usually from new shooter is go pick up live round, Sets loaded pistol on shooting bench while looking for live round. This is a no-no.
            3. Range officer calls cease fire, magazines out action locked open. New shooter drops magazine opens action and locks it open. Again there is a live round somewhere on the ground, New shooters first response usually is to find live round. Is it in front of the bench, on the bench, or on the ground? None of which is usually behind safety line away from the bench.
            4. What do I do if I have a fail to eject (stove pipe)?
            5. What do I do if I have a fail to feed?
            6. New handgun shooter’s main concern should always be the full control of the loaded weapon that is why I feel it is best to start with a wheel gun!!
            7. I have seen all of these through my years of shooting.

            Why a 357? 38 special wad cutters can be bought pretty cheap. Practice, Practice, Practice. Wide range of loads to try 38 special, 38 special+P 357 Magnum. Get use to shooting a hand gun then lets through in the Semi Auto issues.

            Sorry for the long replay.

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            • #7
              Snapping Twig
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 2077

              Yeah, what he said...

              My first firearm was a 10/22 that I bought in H.S., but my first pistol was a 6" S&W 586 .357 and for the reasons listed above.

              I learned to reload and cast at the same time I bought it, so that brought the ammo price WAY down. Typically I shot magnums 5 to 1 over wadcutters, it's just that fun.

              Find a nice .357 and go from there. Ammo anywhere you go, prices are low enough on it, easier maintenance over a semi auto, generally harder hitting round.

              Something like this.

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              Last edited by Snapping Twig; 09-25-2008, 3:13 PM.
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              • #8
                KimoBBZ
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 600

                go 1911!

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                ...You can pick up a slightly used Kimber Classic for about the same price as a new Glock 21 if you shop around a bit and you will be happier with the 1911!...
                Damn Spanky! I'll just add to pony up a few extra bucks for a nice .22LR kit for the 1911 so you can get in all that practice, with basically the same firearm.
                Numbers to LIVE by... 22, 38, 9, 357, 44, 45, 5.56, 7.62x39, 30-30, 308, 30-06, 12

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                • #9
                  KimoBBZ
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 600

                  Originally posted by ddiaz792310
                  Numbers to LIVE by... 22, 38, 9, 357, 44, 45, 5.56, 7.62x39, 30-30, 308, 30-06, 12

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                  • #10
                    rkt88edmo
                    Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 10062

                    Glock 21 with advantage arms .22 kit? or G17 or G19.
                    If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
                    Use the goog to search calguns

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                    • #11
                      avdrummerboy
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 95

                      Already own a Ruger 1022 so was getting at first handgun, and many have said to get a 1911 style gun. Also are there any left-handed guns out there, or ambi that are good starters as well.
                      http://paulkrwe.blogspot.com/



                      On killing in self defense: I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

                      I would also rather my friends and family come visit me in prison than come to visit my grave.

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                      • #12
                        Slayer
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2373

                        Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm. Done!

                        You don't want a .45 for your first gun, unless you got money coming out of your ears.

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                        • #13
                          CHS
                          Moderator Emeritus
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11338

                          Originally posted by avdrummerboy
                          Hey all, I still have like a year before I am even eligible to purchase a handgun (which is too bad with the country going communist on us and all economically speaking )
                          Haven't you realised that you've been able to buy guns for two whole years now? Why are you waiting for 21 and a handgun???

                          I bought my first gun very soon after I turned 18, while I was still in high school.
                          Please read the Calguns Wiki
                          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
                          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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                          • #14
                            fusionstar
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2332

                            Originally posted by Slayer
                            Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm. Done!

                            You don't want a .45 for your first gun, unless you got money coming out of your ears.
                            yea what he said.
                            But if you can afford the ammo. go for it.

                            on my short list are


                            XD-9
                            1911- Chambered for 9mm
                            Glock 17

                            as you can see i like all my guns to be one CHEAPer caliber.
                            If you seek peace, prepare for war

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                            • #15
                              movie zombie
                              Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 14644

                              this is so well stated it should be enshrined and quoted each and every time this question gets asked.

                              movie zombie
                              "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
                              Originally posted by The Shootist
                              Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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