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TL;DR: Rude, incompetent people at Evan's will completely screw up your DROS and then tell you to stop whining about it.
I really hate to write one of these "stay away from X dealer" threads. I support the service these businesses provide. But I just had an utterly ridiculous PPT experience at Evan's Shooters World in Orange County. They are the opposite of what an FFL should be.
I was doing a PPT on a Sig P938 at Evan's. This is intended to be my primary CCW piece, and I live in a hardass county, so I needed the paperwork to be 100% clean.
When I first came in, the gentleman doing the transfer managed to get the following details wrong: the model # (he wrote "9mm"), the color (he wrote "blue"), the barrel length (2"), and the country of origin ("Austria"...?)
I asked him right away to correct these details and he crossed out the "9mm" model number and wrote "Equinox." I informed him that it was a P938. He wrote this next to the "Equinox." They did not provide me with a copy of the DROS (I later learned it's standard to do so).
I called on my pick-up date and was told I had to wait one more day. On the final DROS it said the transaction was actually 1 day later. They either waited a day or the DOJ rejected it for being so inanely incorrect and made them do it again.
I showed up on my pickup date and the gentleman gave me only the second page to sign. The FFLs I usually use (shout-out to the awesome guys at Gunrunners in Duarte, Ammo Paradise in Anaheim, and [girls too!] Ammo Brothers in Cerritos!) are careful at this step and have me review the information to prevent any errors. These FFLs actually *WANT* their buyers to find errors and correct them so that they don't have typos on file when they get audited. So, given the cluster f*** that happened the first time I asked to review the first page.
This guy had the audacity to respond with "well if there was anything wrong with it the DOJ wouldn't have let it go through" WTF?
When I pressed him he gave it to me and it was clear why he didn't want me to see it. All the same details were still wrong. I told him I wasn't signing off unless they corrected this information.
His response: "this stuff doesn't matter for a private party transfer."
I was shocked. I told him "well it matters to me." He shouted to the woman in the other office "Jo, I need your help" and she shouted back "it doesn't matter for a private party transfer."
She emerged and asked me why it mattered. I told her it was for a CCW and started to explain why it would matter. She interrupted me answering her question and snapped "alright I'll fix it!"
She then did the 30 seconds of work necessary to record the correct model number. I did not press her on the barrel length or color. I was mostly concerned with the model number.
Ultimately they sent me away with the dealer's copy instead of the buyer's copy. I'm waiting for them to call me back and tell me I need to bring it back to them so I can return their crappy attitude right back to them and tell them "I thought it doesn't matter for PPT."
What a joke!
I really hate to write one of these "stay away from X dealer" threads. I support the service these businesses provide. But I just had an utterly ridiculous PPT experience at Evan's Shooters World in Orange County. They are the opposite of what an FFL should be.
I was doing a PPT on a Sig P938 at Evan's. This is intended to be my primary CCW piece, and I live in a hardass county, so I needed the paperwork to be 100% clean.
When I first came in, the gentleman doing the transfer managed to get the following details wrong: the model # (he wrote "9mm"), the color (he wrote "blue"), the barrel length (2"), and the country of origin ("Austria"...?)
I asked him right away to correct these details and he crossed out the "9mm" model number and wrote "Equinox." I informed him that it was a P938. He wrote this next to the "Equinox." They did not provide me with a copy of the DROS (I later learned it's standard to do so).
I called on my pick-up date and was told I had to wait one more day. On the final DROS it said the transaction was actually 1 day later. They either waited a day or the DOJ rejected it for being so inanely incorrect and made them do it again.
I showed up on my pickup date and the gentleman gave me only the second page to sign. The FFLs I usually use (shout-out to the awesome guys at Gunrunners in Duarte, Ammo Paradise in Anaheim, and [girls too!] Ammo Brothers in Cerritos!) are careful at this step and have me review the information to prevent any errors. These FFLs actually *WANT* their buyers to find errors and correct them so that they don't have typos on file when they get audited. So, given the cluster f*** that happened the first time I asked to review the first page.
This guy had the audacity to respond with "well if there was anything wrong with it the DOJ wouldn't have let it go through" WTF?
When I pressed him he gave it to me and it was clear why he didn't want me to see it. All the same details were still wrong. I told him I wasn't signing off unless they corrected this information.
His response: "this stuff doesn't matter for a private party transfer."
I was shocked. I told him "well it matters to me." He shouted to the woman in the other office "Jo, I need your help" and she shouted back "it doesn't matter for a private party transfer."
She emerged and asked me why it mattered. I told her it was for a CCW and started to explain why it would matter. She interrupted me answering her question and snapped "alright I'll fix it!"
She then did the 30 seconds of work necessary to record the correct model number. I did not press her on the barrel length or color. I was mostly concerned with the model number.
Ultimately they sent me away with the dealer's copy instead of the buyer's copy. I'm waiting for them to call me back and tell me I need to bring it back to them so I can return their crappy attitude right back to them and tell them "I thought it doesn't matter for PPT."
What a joke!
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