Registered Assault Pistols, what mods ?

[bellwilliam]

buddy has a Steyr SPP that was registered as an Assault Pistol.
wondering what can be legally done to it ? shooing as a pistol is kinda pointless. is adding stock possible ? adding threaded barrel ? adding longer barrel ? adding a forward grip ? thanks.

[mag360]

Its like a mac. You just shoot it as it is. No you cant put a stock on it.

[danny300]

nice post.......

[MachineGuntongue]

Wouldn't the TMP be the "assault pistol"? As select fire and foregrip?

Wonder how did that term came about as SPP?

If semi auto and no "features" Mystery, but interesting for sure! Both the pistol and CA DOJ classification.

"The full-auto TMP’s vertical foregrip would prevent this problem, but the civilian-legal SPP must avoid the vertical foregrip to avoid being classified as an ‘Any Other Weapon’ under the NFA."


Article here:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/10/chris-dumm/gun-review-steyr-tmpspp-edition/

[Merc1138]

If it's a registered assault weapon, then you could stick a threaded barrel on it. That's about it.

[bellwilliam]

If it's a registered assault weapon, then you could stick a threaded barrel on it. That's about it.

and add compensator ?

[Merc1138]

and add compensator ?

You could, but that doesn't have anything to do with being a RAW, since anyone can get a comp permanently attached to a barrel on a handgun(doesn't mean it would be easy to service... but that's not the point).

Being a RAW, all it really gains you is the ability to have a threaded barrel. Which doesn't mean much in CA since you can't have a suppressor, or just simply want a comp that can be removed.

edit: I suppose if you really wanted to for some strange reason, you could go with a fixed magazine over 10 rounds? Install a really long barrel with a shroud over it? Not that either of those would accomplish much of anything.

[bellwilliam]

so being RAW pistol, can't do anything ?
unlike RAW rifle, ton of mods you can do.

how about the law about converting pistol to rifle ?
possible to add stock and 16" barrel (pin a long shroud) ? will it not require BB because it is a RAW ?

[Merc1138]

Converting a RAW pistol into a rifle to retain it's RAW status and not require a fixed mag? Dunno. Can't say I've ever read about anyone doing that.

But yeah, there isn't much to do with a RAW pistol(well, maybe if you were doing something like a ruger charger?) simply because there never was much to do with pistol customization in the first place that involves "AW features".

Technically speaking, unless the Steyr SSP you're talking about already had a threaded barrel, there wasn't any reason to register it in the first place as an AW.

A second handgrip is an AOW issue, and apparently that wasn't already taken care of. It doesn't really appear to have a "barrel shroud". The magazine is in the pistol grip. It doesn't have a fixed magazine over 10 rounds. So a threaded barrel is about it.

[The Gleam]

Technically speaking, unless the Steyr SSP you're talking about already had a threaded barrel, there wasn't no reason to register it in the first place as an AW.

Exactly. I've owned 2 of them for many years and never even considered logging them for RAW at the time.

It's ridiculous how often I've heard and seen first-hand, various FFLs depicting them as Assault Weapons or that they are banned in CA merely because of how it looks by association, misinterpreting the front barrel extension or front tang as evil features.

I've even heard it called "a MAC-10 clone" by one FFL -

The Steyr SPP is akin to being a glorified Glock; just not as accurate as a Glock, is as big as a mobile-phone from the 1980s, clunky, not very concealable, and awkward. It's true merits are seen in the TMP as it's true purpose and intent of it's design. As a semi-auto, it's kind of a stupidly cumbersome gun when so much else is available that supersedes it's abilities in a much smaller package.

If you are buying one for fun, collecting, or for the sheer tacti-cool look; great. But if you are merely after an accurate semi-automatic 9mm polymer handgun that can also accept your legally owned 10-plus mags, you'll get better performance and real-world use out of a smaller and more agile Glock, HK USP, Springfield XD, or S&W M&P.