i cant stop "instinctivly" aiming slightly downward

[calibased]

no matter what i do when standing i cant seem to permanently fix this issue: when i try random speed draw dry fires OR at the range i notice my perceived point of impact/actual POI is lower than what i intended. enough to go from a HS to Throat.... why is that? lately i have been wondering if its a subconscious urge to hit center mass. is there any proven methods to fix this for combat? opinions?

[bulletblood]

You are flinching, that is all.

[TKM]

When you throw a football you are instinctively throwing it at the head not the feet. So if somebody is standing fifteen yards away you will actually be aiming for about thirty yards.

(It sounds goofier reading than it did a second ago in my head.)

See if that might be happening with you.

[shortround1]

What pistol are you using? I had that feeling when I tried a Sig p226, I would always find myself pointing it low and had to re-adjust. I much prefer the grip angle of Glocks and 1911's.

[shortround1]

You are flinching, that is all.

He included dry-firing in his original post. People don't flinch when they do that. I think he's talking about his natural point of aim. It sounds like he's consistently just aiming low without meaning to.

[calibased]

i cant stop "instinctivly" aiming slightly downward

I am using a mc operator w/ tlr-2s (I mention that because I prefer to keep it attached)... and I really appreciate what you guys are throwing at me. Thank you

[SLO1911Fan]

How much time have you spent with other pistol platforms? If I try to shoot a glock quickly I'm usually 4" off at 15 yards. I've spent too much time with 1911s, and I have to make a conscious effort to aim lower with glocks.

[ElDub1950]

You might make a difference by staying away from the large silhouette targets for awhile and shooting a package of 3" targets.

It did wonders for me.

[thequads]

He included dry-firing in his original post. People don't flinch when they do that. I think he's talking about his natural point of aim. It sounds like he's consistently just aiming low without meaning to.

ah my bad, maybe try a different back strap, different gun with different ergos, and slow down on the draw. If firing before setting a correct poa then you're going faster than your current skill level.

[calibased]

i cant stop "instinctivly" aiming slightly downward

Going to the range within the next week as soon as I can slip out (work lol)
Going to sample the opinions thanks evreyone

[Arkangel]

I have a similar issue with Glocks. No matter how hard I try, I always index lower than intended. It seems the grip angle just doesn't agree with me.

It's one of the reason I never added a Glock to my stable.

[redcliff]

I am using a mc operator w/ tlr-2s (I mention that because I prefer to keep it attached)... and I really appreciate what you guys are throwing at me. Thank you

ah my bad, maybe try a different back strap, different gun with different ergos, and slow down on the draw. If firing before setting a correct poa then you're going faster than your current skill level.

The arched main spring housing on the 1911a1 was the military's answer for some people point shooting low with 1911's. For those people it is a real benefit.

While I personally prefer the flat mainspring housing I do like the short trigger of the 1911a1 as it prevents me from pushing shots slightly left as a right handed shooter.

[9mmepiphany]

no matter what i do when standing i cant seem to permanently fix this issue: when i try random speed draw dry fires OR at the range i notice my perceived point of impact/actual POI is lower than what i intended. enough to go from a HS to Throat.... why is that?

Does this also happen when you don't combine your trigger press with the draw?
Are you drawing to eye level?
Is your preferred grip/arm geometry, the Weaver or the Isosceles?

is there any proven methods to fix this for combat? opinions?

It is unlikely to be flinch and could very well be hand fit. The latter could be easily cured with a change to an arched MSH.

Without having seen you shoot, it is very possible that you are milking the grip to increase perceived control in a speed drill.

Is your strong thumb riding the thumb safety?
Are you pressing down on it hard enough to impede bloodflow?

[Lead Waster]

Draw very slowly and deliberately. Over and over, correcting your aims as you push out.

You might just need to retrain bad habits?

[ojisan]

Do you still shoot low with the TLR removed?



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