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  • Tok36
    Veteran Member
    • May 2013
    • 3061

    CZ97BD Falure to feed issues.

    Hay all I have been having failure to feed issues with my CZ97BD since the first time i shot it. It has gotten slightly better over the 950 rounds i have put through it but it still persists.

    I have polished the feed ramp. First time at this so i may have to give it another shot.

    I am using 2 factory mags that came with the pistol and 2 factory 97 mags that i purchased form CZ USA. Mags are marked "CZ97".

    It has happened equally as often with all the ammo i have put through it. Rem UMC 230g FMJ. Winchester 230g FMJ, PMC 230g FMJ.
    The issue occurs most often on the first round of a fully loaded magazine (10).

    It has also had sporadic FTF's on the 9th through the last round. Not very often, at least once per 50 rounds. Once in a while 3 in a row.

    My observations have lead me to a potential extractor claw issue. If possible i would appreciate it if someone could meter their CZ 97 extractor claw so i can compare the dimensions to mine. I am thinking mine is longer than it needs to be and this is jamming in the extractor groove of the brass.

    My extractor claw is .310 +/- .005 from the outside to the inside.

    I have found through experimenting with snap caps that if i push on the rear of the extractor, the slide closes, the round fully chambers and i am good to go. This dose not take allot of pressure.


    Dose anyone's CZ 97 extractor stick out this much with a round loaded. On the 75 Series with a round loaded the extractor still lays flat in its unloaded position.

    If possible i would appreciate it if someone could meter their CZ 97 extractor claw so i can compare the dimensions to mine.
    My extractor claw is .310 +/- .005 from the outside to the inside.

    The polished feed ramp


    I am not all that worried about this issue, it is a range gun and i still shoot the pistol allot. I would however like to get to the bottem of this and possibly assist others encountering the same issue.

    EDIT for update 10/30/14: Sent my 97BD into CZ USA. They replaced the extractor and my 97BD feeds great now. The hole process cost me nothing and took around 10 days. Ive added a picture below that shows the new and the old extractor. For those that might read this that have encountered the same issue, your extractor should sit flat with a round chambered. If your extractor sticks out like picture #3 (red rectangle) above it may be out of spec. Thanks again for the help all and thanks to CZ USA for their outstanding CS.
    Last edited by Tok36; 02-03-2015, 3:39 AM. Reason: EDIT for update 10/30/14
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  • #2
    nahpungnome
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 2159

    I had FTFs when my 97B was new. I had weird jams where instead of the nose of the round being stuck in the chamber at an angle, the round would actually be sticking in the ejection port vertically. It happened quite often, but as I shot more, the problems went away. I don't have these issues at all now. Could just be some new pistol gremlins.

    EDIT: I decided to check mine out anyway. Here's my observations. My extractor does NOT stick out like yours with a round chambered. My extractor measures .280~.281 from inside to outside measuring on the claw.
    Last edited by nahpungnome; 09-14-2014, 7:52 PM.

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    • #3
      glock17_1986
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 653

      I looked at mine loaded right now and mine doesnt stick out like that either. This is one of the problems that seems to plague this cz pistol. I just racked my slide and it ftf with hollow points. Now mine is an older model. On a side note what did you use to polish your feed ramp? I have heard of people reprofiling the feed ramp to get it to feed consistently

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      • #4
        Tok36
        Veteran Member
        • May 2013
        • 3061

        Thank you for checking nahpungnome, .030 difference, could be it. I am going to do a bit more research and check a few other things first then ill likely trim it a little bit (thinkin trimming might effect the heat treating) or order a new one. It seamed like it was abnormally long for the task.

        Thank you as well glock17_1986. I used Mothers Mag & Aluminum polish, i couldn't find Flitz but i think it worked well. Might need a little more work on the sides of the ramp.
        Vive La Exile Machine!!
        Link--> CZ 75B -vs- CZ 75 SP-01 Comparison
        Link--> CGW Type 3 Disco fitting fun
        Link--> What is a CZ Tactical sport?
        Will work for CZ Pics!

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        • #5
          nahpungnome
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 2159

          Don't mess with it, call CZ, they'll send you a new one.

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          • #6
            Mot Mi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 1061

            Originally posted by nahpungnome
            Don't mess with it, call CZ, they'll send you a new one.
            +1 on this. Call CZ and see what they suggest and I am pretty sure the problem will be remedied by having it sent in or them sending you a replacemenent part. I will check my cz97 when I have the first one in my hands in a few weeks. I'll check the second one too. Looks like I will be shooting the one I was going to send to CGW before shooting it.

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            • #7
              blackrat
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 1103

              Originally posted by nahpungnome
              Don't mess with it, call CZ, they'll send you a new one.
              +2

              I had a minor issue with my 75 rear sight and they bent over backwards for me 4 years after the purchase date. They should take care of you no problem.

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              • #8
                CAGLS
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 3730

                CZ should take care of it but I would also call David of CGW just to see what he thinks it may be given the info you provide.

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                • #9
                  Tok36
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 3061

                  Roger that.

                  Thank you for the insight everyone.
                  Vive La Exile Machine!!
                  Link--> CZ 75B -vs- CZ 75 SP-01 Comparison
                  Link--> CGW Type 3 Disco fitting fun
                  Link--> What is a CZ Tactical sport?
                  Will work for CZ Pics!

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