CA DOJ roster updated to include the S&W 686

[InertiaDriven]

I did not see that anyone posted this, so here goes.

The CA list of handgun models whose status has changed recently:

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov

Recently Added Handgun Models, pdf
Models added recently to the Roster of Handguns certified for sale in CA now includes the S&W 686 .

I could not believe that the 686 was not on there in the first place.

This is a good sign.

[madoka]

How are those Colt pistols getting added to the roster?

[DCF]

All the Colt are just different editions of the existing approved pistol. Check the roster and you will see 18 different O 1991 pistols.

[madoka]

All the Colt are just different editions of the existing approved pistol. Check the roster and you will see 18 different O 1991 pistols.

The OD and black Glocks are on the roster, but the FDE is not. The only difference is the color.

[bsumoba]

686 on the roster now!!! hell yea!

[Gryff]

The OD and black Glocks are on the roster, but the FDE is not. The only difference is the color.

Color change makes a gun unsafe. Otherwise, it would be ****ing inane to restrict it from the list for that purpose, right?

Remember...the government exists to look out for our best interests.

[Old4eyes]

I did not see that anyone posted this, so here goes.

The CA list of handgun models whose status has changed recently:

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov

Recently Added Handgun Models, pdf
Models added recently to the Roster of Handguns certified for sale in CA now includes the S&W 686 .

I could not believe that the 686 was not on there in the first place.

This is a good sign.

If you look at the recently removed list you'll see a number of Smith 686 (and others) dropping off the list in June 2014. Smith dropped the manufacture of a number of 686 models. The one you show being added is a new model of the 686 - a snub nose in the performance center.

Since microstamping, loaded chamber indicator and magazine disconnect do not apply to revolvers the manufacturers need only make the gun reliable and pass the drop test.

Is it a good sign - not really, the list is like the frog in that pan of water that is slowly being heated up.

[glockman19]

I'm not getting excited...the list continues to shrink.

[riderr]

I'm not getting excited...the list continues to shrink.

Did you expect it to grow? S&W and Ruger are removing their old designs. The list will keep shrinking drastically till the end of the year.

[jb octane]

If you look at the recently removed list you'll see a number of Smith 686 (and others) dropping off the list in June 2014. Smith dropped the manufacture of a number of 686 models. The one you show being added is a new model of the 686 - a snub nose in the performance center.

Since microstamping, loaded chamber indicator and magazine disconnect do not apply to revolvers the manufacturers need only make the gun reliable and pass the drop test.

Is it a good sign - not really, the list is like the frog in that pan of water that is slowly being heated up.

Well there were 6 different 686's added since 8/12/2014.

Smith & Wesson 686 SKU 170346 / Steel .357 Magnum Revolver 2.5" 9/2/2014
Smith & Wesson 686-6 Plus 7 Shot SKU 164198A / Stainless Steel .357 Magnum Revolver 6" 8/12/2014
Smith & Wesson 686-6 Plus, 7 Shot SKU 164192A / Steel .357 Magnum Revolver 2.5" 8/12/2014
Smith & Wesson 686-6 SKU 164222A / Steel .357 Magnum Revolver 4" 8/12/2014
Smith & Wesson 686-6 SKU 164224A / Steel .357 Magnum Revolver 6" 8/12/2014
Smith & Wesson 686-7 7 Shot SKU 164194A / Steel .357 Magnum Revolver 4" 8/12/2014


But agreed. This isn't really good news to anyone who isn't planning on buying a 686.

[Edwood]

I like that the roster restricts identical guns that differ only in color. Makes it much more likely the roster will be overturned in court.

[madoka]

Color change makes a gun unsafe. Otherwise, it would be ****ing inane to restrict it from the list for that purpose, right?

Again, that still leaves the question of how those Colt pistols got added to the roster.

[riderr]

Again, that still leaves the question of how those Colt pistols got added to the roster.

Did Glock submit gen 3 FDE for certification and got denied?

[madoka]

Did Glock submit gen 3 FDE for certification and got denied?

IIRC, that was one of our points in the Pena v. Cid case; that some guns were considered unsafe for only cosmetic reasons, such as color.

[riderr]

IIRC, that was one of our points in the Pena v. Cid case; that some guns were considered unsafe for only cosmetic reasons, such as color.

Well, my question was if GLOCK submitted it for certification and got denied OR if they have never submitted FDE?