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  • ethib
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 260

    9mm p+

    Never shot 9mm p+. Can you tell the difference from normal 9mm? Does it have the muzzle flip of a 40sw?
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    Mayor McRifle
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 7667

    Originally posted by ethib
    Never shot 9mm p+. Can you tell the difference from normal 9mm?
    I definitely can tell the difference.

    Originally posted by ethib
    Does it have the muzzle flip of a 40sw?
    Not quite. For me, it just feels more "affirmative" than a standard 9 mm load.
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      003
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 3436

      While I can feel the difference between standard saami spec 9mm and 9mm +P it really is not much. Keep in mind that saami spec 9mm +P is just about the same as 9mm NATO spec ammunition.

      Last edited by 003; 08-31-2014, 4:56 PM.

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        saudadeii
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 3434

        In my M&P 9C, 115gr vs 124gr +p is a big difference.

        In my Beretta M9, 124 gr vs 124gr +p is not such a big difference.
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          BigBamBoo
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          • Apr 2008
          • 5210

          Proper grip, stance, and technique will help mitigate any increased recoil. That being said, I do not feel much of a difference between standard 9mm ammo factory ammo and +P loads.
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          • #6
            Click Boom
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            • Nov 2013
            • 6955

            I am more accurate with +p. especially with somewhat further targets. Too bad plinking ammo is half the price :P

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            • #7
              JWRacing
              Junior Member
              • May 2010
              • 16

              I notice the difference in sound and muzzle flash more than recoil.

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              • #8
                JohnCCW
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1307

                Depends on the gun. Doubt you could tell difference with a non-polymer pistol or a carbine.
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                  bsumoba
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 4217

                  i dont notice it as i manhandle my handguns and recoil goes straight back typically.

                  compared to the 40S&W, its got a little more felt recoil, but again, recoil is mitigated through grip and stance. compared to the big daddy of the 40S&W, which is the 10mm, the 9mm +p is like a .22
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                  • #10
                    digdug74
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1042

                    Personally I think +P 9mm has less felt recoil than standard pressure .40 S&W. I've put a fair amount of 124 grn +P 9mm through my Kahr CM9 and it seems like less felt recoil than my G27 with standard pressure 180 grain. Mileage and individual opinion may vary though...

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                    • #11
                      hambam105
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7083

                      I was advised that if 9mm plus P was too much for me to handle that I should reconsider airsoft.

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                      • #12
                        Bill Steele
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 5028

                        There are a lot of questions there. You can go to handloads.com and use their recoil calculator. That, of course, will only tell what the actual free recoil is of your particular loads and guns you use them in. It won't tell you anything about bore axis, grip architecture, muzzle flash and report, etc. So, it won't tell you what the felt recoil will be between them, only you can determine that with you shooting your chosen loads in your chosen gun, etc. Even indoor versus outdoor will matter in the felt recoil game.
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                        • #13
                          _TomT_
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 3354

                          "9mm" hehe that's cute.

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                          • #14
                            Citizen_B
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 1429

                            Perceived recoil varies from person to person. I think of recoil generally having two parts (1) the overall 'push back' from the gun and the (2) snappy muzzle flip. Some can't tell much difference, others it's a big difference. Straight physics says there obviously is a difference in total recoil. I've shot 9mm, 9mm +p, and .40 side by side in a similar size/make of gun (G17 & G22). I did notice the difference. For me, the perceived recoil was 9mm<9mm+p<.40. It does vary across ammo manufacturers.

                            I can also notice a slight recoil difference between grains within a caliber. For example, 115gr. 9mm feels snappier/more muzzle flip than 147gr. That said, not all rounds are the same across manufacturers. For example Federal 9mm 147gr. HST feel slightly snappier than some 147gr. FMJ in other manufacturers. Keep in mind the differences I'm talking about here are very subtle.

                            Personally I think the 9mm standard pressure round is a fine loading for my needs. 9mm JHP has come a long way.

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                              BigPimping
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                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21443

                              I have never fired +P loads from any of my firearms. I own them but do not use them at a range. Maybe I should to see how they feed and if reliable.
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