Browning High Power

[Wicked Pete]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdApLdz8EGA

Anyone done this Modification? Called: "magazine disconnect"? Wad are they talking about?

Worth the effort or let it be?

[highpower]

I've done it on all the Hi Powers I have owned. It's not all that hard.

[Snoopy47]

I had a smith replace the narrow stock trigger with a wider target trigger (which removed the mag safety).

The trigger was improved dramatically. The stock trigger set up is a horrible single action trigger.

[Noonanda]

Will be doing this in about an hour

[Wicked Pete]

Will be doing this in about an hour

Wish I could see how it went. Let us know.

[tacticalcity]

The magazine disconnect makes it so when the magazine is removed the gun will not fire. I'm not a fan of them. It makes the gun less than ideal for self-defense.

Dogma in self defense training is that if there is a lull in the fight, you swap you slightly depleted magazine with your full spare magazine on your hip. That way if the fighting picks back up again, you are not entering that new or resumed fight with a half empty magazine. But just because you think the bad guy is incapacitated, or that all the bad guys are down...doesn't mean you are right. If you have a magazine disconnect, and suddenly the fight starts back up while you are in the middle of a magazine change you are totally screwed. Sure, you have a round in the chamber...but you can't fire it until you get a magazine inserted back into the gun. Without that magazine disconnect, that round in the chamber is your insurance policy.

California politicians like it because it is supposed to help keep idiots from thinking the gun is empty when there is actually a round in the chamber and shooting themselves or somebody else. Which is true. In that very narrow instance, it helps untrained people from doing something stupid. But as somebody who is well trained, I don't need training wheels on my gun. In fact I very much don't want them. They get in the way of being effective!

Before removing it, take an honest self assessment of your skill level. Are you still pretty new? Do you occasionally still find yourself putting your finger on the trigger. Are you disciplined enough to do a chamber check/mag check every time you pickup the weapon even if you only left it for a second? Do you clear the chamber every single time you "unload" the gun or have you caught yourself accidentally leaving a round in the chamber? If you are not truly proficient, you might actually benefit from having those training wheels on there for a while. Just don't depend on them too much while you train yourself to be a safety-nazi.

It is OK if you're not there yet. Work at it hard enough, and get some outside professional training, and eventually it will become beyond obvious to you it is time to take it off. So if you are ready for it to come off, you already know it. If you aren't, you know that too.

[HPGunner]

I'm just worried about marring up my trigger while trying to punch that pin out of the trigger. It seems pretty simple to just remove that piece that pushes up against the inserted magazine. I originally thought it would be more involved. So there is no reliability issues? I'm tempted, but also cautious about screwing up my trigger or slipping and putting and unsightly ding in my frame.

[nismoflip]

I had a smith do it because I didn't trust myself enough. It was definitely worth it for me.

[Chaos47]

I've done it and helped others thru it..
The video above shows the one pin method..

Most people do the 2 pin method but the frame pin can be a pain in the ***
Blued and silver guns are generally easy... epoxy coated... can be the devil.

I had to use a auto center punch on mine and replace the pin.

Yes, it decreases trigger pull weight but it doesn't do anything for the reset.
Personally I hate magazine disconnects on principle so I remove them from every firearm I own even if they don't interfere with trigger pulls.

HPGunner no, no reliability issues. Infact you are making the trigger system less complicated..

Tips: Electrical tape helps when driving stubborn pins to save you from scratches but it won't stop a ding.. Support the firearm well on a block of wood or a roll of tape and don't hammer it on carpet or on a table that will bounce, working on concrete floors all ways are a good option for taper pins, hah. Penetrating oil is a good idea..

[-hanko]

I've done it and helped others thru it..
The video above shows the one pin method..

Most people do the 2 pin method but the frame pin can be a pain in the ***
Blued and silver guns are generally easy... epoxy coated... can be the devil.

I had to use a auto center punch on mine and replace the pin.

Yes, it decreases trigger pull weight but it doesn't do anything for the reset.
Personally I hate magazine disconnects on principle so I remove them from every firearm I own even if they don't interfere with trigger pulls.

HPGunner no, no reliability issues. Infact you are making the trigger system less complicated..

Tips: Electrical tape helps when driving stubborn pins to save you from scratches but it won't stop a ding.. Support the firearm well on a block of wood or a roll of tape and don't hammer it on carpet or on a table that will bounce, working on concrete floors all ways are a good option for taper pins, hah. Penetrating oil is a good idea..

Use a brass hammer.

[Noonanda]

Did mine last night, was even easier than doing it on my S&W M&P 9 fs or shield

[Chaos47]

Use a brass hammer.

On a pin that won't budge? Goodluck.
But sure start with one...