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  • dc7rr1
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 609

    Unblock magazine?

    Is it possible to unblock magazines? If you were to move out of state perhaps?
  • #2
    glock_this
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2005
    • 8225

    Sure, why not?

    But, are you asking from a legality perspective, or from a mechanical or how to or tool perspective?
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    • #3
      JaeFern
      Senior Member
      • May 2006
      • 1796

      Originally posted by dc7rr1
      Is it possible to unblock magazines? If you were to move out of state perhaps?
      Completely depends on how it was blocked. But generally, it is likely it could be done.

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      • #4
        dc7rr1
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2014
        • 609

        From a mechanical perspective.

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        • #5
          JaeFern
          Senior Member
          • May 2006
          • 1796

          Originally posted by dc7rr1
          From a mechanical perspective.
          What kind of magazines are we talking about? rifle? Handgun? How were they blocked?

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          • #6
            hossb7
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3285

            Originally posted by dc7rr1
            From a mechanical perspective.
            Need more information. Does it have a simple blocker? is it welded shut? epoxy? Your initial post is incredibly vague.
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            • #7
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              In theory, any magazine blocked to ten rounds can't be unblocked without wrecking the magazine, otherwise it as never "permanently blocked to ten rounds" in the first place. In theory.
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              • #8
                glock_this
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2005
                • 8225

                Originally posted by dc7rr1
                From a mechanical perspective.
                I have, personally, undone almost every AR mag block method I have seen for example. Epoxy, blind pins, rivets, etc. In time, with the proper tools - like a dremel - any block is undoable. Floorplates are generally the 1 thing you could destroy in the process depending on the method used. But if you go slow and are patient, I have even salvaged those to be reused if, for example, epoxy was used.
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                • #9
                  1911R SSS
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 862

                  Originally posted by glock_this
                  I have, personally, undone almost every AR mag block method I have seen for example. Epoxy, blind pins, rivets, etc. In time, with the proper tools - like a dremel - any block is undoable. Floorplates are generally the 1 thing you could destroy in the process depending on the method used. But if you go slow and are patient, I have even salvaged those to be reused if, for example, epoxy was used.
                  I know it's kinda of topic,but how did you "unstick" the epoxy? I havea custom fishing rod that I want to remove the reel seat but it's epoxied on.

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                    dc7rr1
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 609

                    Sorry for the vagueness of my question. It's due to my lack of knowledge about how magazines are blocked. I was just wondering cause I'll be buying some pistols that have blocked mags and if I ever leave this beautiful state, would I be able to use the magazine to its full potential as designed.

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                    • #11
                      JaeFern
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 1796

                      Yes. With any form of blocking, it would take some patience but should be possible.

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                      • #12
                        glock_this
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 8225

                        Originally posted by 1911R SSS
                        I know it's kinda of topic,but how did you "unstick" the epoxy? I havea custom fishing rod that I want to remove the reel seat but it's epoxied on.
                        Well, this may not be applicable to your use so YMMV. Plus, I do not even know what a "reel seat" is. But in the end, there is no way to "unstick" epoxy, you have to break it free as once it dries, it is like plastic itself: firm and solid - but often brittle and that is it's weakness. Strong enough to hold, but yet brittle enough such that when the right force is applied or tools used, it often just shatters free.

                        To start, I have always been able to eek into the gap between the floorplate and mag body a very small - not jewellers sized small, but small - standard flat head screwdriver. This allows me to work my way around the gap between the body and the floorplate and crack or open up that epoxy seal as my first step. From there, I can then often take the same screwdriver and start to easily tap into that gap around the floor plate with a hammer to the point where the floorplate breaks free and the epoxy shatters. From there, I use a dremel or a small fine chisel to pop off the epoxy which always seems to break free and not damage the floorplate. On a mag, there is often so little epoxy it's bond is strong, but not undefeatable. As well, it is often not evenly applied so you can find gaps in the bond to exploit.

                        I have also used a dremel - with a super fine diamond cutting blade - to straight cut off the lip of the floorplate, destroying it in the process but not touching the mag body in any way, thereby only having to replace the floorplate. But in these cases, I did not care as the whole goal was to go to ranger plates anyway so salvaging them was not critical.

                        With these methods, and small variations of them, I have removed dozens of epoxied on floor plates that I went on to sell here as they were in near pristine condition once I finished and cleaned them up.

                        But again, on a fishing pole, I doubt these methods will work given shape and given epoxy type and given commercial application of epoxy versus questionable epoxy application (amount, quality and uniformity) by the average guy or small company who were selling sealed mags.
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                          It would be legal to unblock a +10 round magazine which you legally owned as a "high capacity" magazine and blocked to use in a firearm with a mag lock. In fact, this type of block would not even need to be permanent in the first place.
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                          • #14
                            glock_this
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 8225

                            Originally posted by dc7rr1
                            Sorry for the vagueness of my question. It's due to my lack of knowledge about how magazines are blocked. I was just wondering cause I'll be buying some pistols that have blocked mags and if I ever leave this beautiful state, would I be able to use the magazine to its full potential as designed.
                            On pistols... versus an AR for example where you can use several methods like rivets since the mag does not fully fit into the magwell, I would expect an epoxied on floorplate with a dowel of some sorts as the actual "block" or limiter for rounds.
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                            • #15
                              'ol shooter
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                              • Mar 2011
                              • 4646

                              My 92FS factory mags are different housings between the tens and hi-caps. Nothing to block/unblock.
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