Full Circle stock Glock vs aftermarket

[oath-keeper]

Here is my take....Over the last 4 years of shooting average of 3 x per month at local range rifle/pistol 1,000 rds. I mostly shoot my handguns, 4 g21, Sig 1911 TTT, I primarily shoot my carry Glock practicing drawing from concealment, walking, prone, behind cover etc. I started out reading various internet sites, bought books, etc, I tried every spring combo, skeletonized Stryker, extended slide stop, take down, on and on. Conclusion. The only improvement I have made that improved my shooting skills was XS big dot. I am back to stock everything, through all of my " tweaking" on aftermarket parts and tons of money, I wish I had just spent on ammo. Nothing but sight alignment, sight picture, grip, trigger squeeze ( the basics) did anything to improve my skills. I made a full circle after trying it all, so for any new shooters, save your money don't believe what you read or trust the internet, nothing but practicing ( correctly) to build correct muscle memory will advance your shooting skills. Just my take...

[Snoopy47]

http://www.bullseyepistol.com/amucover.htm

The above link is the US Army Marksmanship Manual. I'd read it cover to cover before you fire another shot.

You'd be surprised.

There's nothing in there short of a world champion or world record holder can add to it.

Throwing lead down range without a focus and purpose could be a lot of wasted time and money. Just reading it and applying the methods will at the very least give you a measurable improvement.

Don't get me wrong. Shooting is fun, but shooting well is more than just shooting a lot.

[BearBear]

I agree, I have upgraded EVERYTHING in my G17, and my G21 is bone stock as it is one of my home defense weapons. They shoot the same groups and hit the same steel. But if your modified pistol is not screwing up and is reliable, why not leave it alone, you spent the money... or is it malfunctioning?

[ElDub1950]

Yep, take all the money you're thinking about spending on so called upgrades and improvements and custom doodads and spend it on some training classes. That's about the only thing you can buy that will actually improve your shooting.

OK, I'll limit that statement to "until you can shoot better than your gun allows".

[nephrodoc]

Glocks are more reliable in their stock configuration. The only thing I would spend money on is sights and more ammo for practice.

[TheCarpenter]

I agree that proper training and thousands of rounds make better shooters.
But for me and my Glocks, I need to lighten the trigger to 5-5.5 lbs. the factory trigger breaks in the 6.75-7.5 lbs. range and is a little gritty at that. I prefer to run the factory 3.5 lbs. trigger bar, fully polished assembly with a 6 lbs. spring, this is the only way I perform we'll with a Glock. I guess 18 years of shooting Sigs may have spoiled my trigger finger.

[hossb7]

I think this video has been posted a number of times but it's probably warranted again here:



Some points from the video that are pertinent to the thread topic:
1. get new sights on the gun ASAP. the factory plastic sights are total trash.
2. keep all of the trigger parts OEM

Combine that with an optional polish, add magazines and ammo, and you're well on your way to enjoying a fine shooting and reliable pistol.

[hossb7]

On mine I have Ameriglo CAP sights, an OEM Gen 3 G17 trigger/trigger bar, and an OEM "minus" connector.

[oath-keeper]

No malfunctions whatsoever, purchased the Fulcrum adjustable complete drop in, the Fulcrum Duty as part of my previously mentioned upgrades. The only issue's from upgrades were, the extended slide lock dragged on IWB Minotaur and the trigger pad on both Fulcrums has tiny set screws kept backing out, no issue as far as function, great triggers, I was hoping to share with folks before they went down the tacticool path and waste cash. Not all aftermarket is bad just doesn't improve my shooting....

[tbc]

Full Circle stock Glock vs aftermarket

I think this video has been posted a number of times but it's probably warranted again here:







Some points from the video that are pertinent to the thread topic:

1. get new sights on the gun ASAP. the factory plastic sights are total trash.

2. keep all of the trigger parts OEM



Combine that with an optional polish, add magazines and ammo, and you're well on your way to enjoying a fine shooting and reliable pistol.

That ^^^

And I am going to add this vvv



No Buck Roger ****

[Leethe4th]

There are no magic gizmos, only the fundamentals: stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control. Doesn't matter if its a HiPoint or $5,000 STI Open Gun.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

You aren't the first to learn this lesson, and unfortunately you won't be the last. Good training and technique, for the most part, outweigh hanging gadgets on/in your firearm. Good on you for posting your observations in hopes of keeping others from wasting their money. People usually have to discover this for themselves, if they ever do.

[BearBear]

No malfunctions whatsoever, purchased the Fulcrum adjustable complete drop in, the Fulcrum Duty as part of my previously mentioned upgrades. The only issue's from upgrades were, the extended slide lock dragged on IWB Minotaur and the trigger pad on both Fulcrums has tiny set screws kept backing out, no issue as far as function, great triggers, I was hoping to share with folks before they went down the tacticool path and waste cash. Not all aftermarket is bad just doesn't improve my shooting....

Oh, I totally agree, and I wish I had your advice years ago. If I could do it over, i would not have spent all that money. I was just wondering if you were having problems because I've been strongly considering converting back to factory parts in my G17, but I've never had a problem. Actually the only problem I have had, is that all that custom crap never made me shoot better.

[oath-keeper]

There was an upside, I learned a bunch and have enough extra parts on hand in the likely event parts become impossible to obtain from whatever gun grab scare awaits.

[ElDub1950]

Some points from the video that are pertinent to the thread topic:
1. get new sights on the gun ASAP. the factory plastic sights are total trash.
2. keep all of the trigger parts OEM

That's kind of a given. IMHO the plastic things included are really just placeholders. Glock realizes there is no way to provide factory sights that most people will like so there's no reason to increase the price by $50-$75 to add sights that most people will automatically replace anyway.

It's a wise choice on Glock's parts and in no way intended to remain on the gun.