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  • 10shootter
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 29

    DA/SA Training

    In a recent post on 'Decocker DA/SA Interpretation', TacticalCity amongst others, referenced the importance of training. Any suggestions on great DA/Sa training venues local to the SF Bay ; San Jose Sacramento areas?

    Thanking you in advance.
  • #2
    Caseless
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 1650

    Ever heard of dry fire practice?

    Save your $$ for ammo and range trips if all you want to improve on is your DA/SA skill.

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    • #3
      AeroEngi
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 2887

      I agree with Caseless. Dry firing really helped me in becoming more proficient with the DA pull on my Sigs.

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      • #4
        10shootter
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 29

        Dry fire was always going to be my first priority; but thanks for your thoughts.

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        • #5
          AeroEngi
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 2887

          For range practice, what I do is I load up my P220 with 8 rounds in the mag. I chamber a round and then decock the hammer by using the decocking lever. I fire the first shot in DA followed by a shot in SA. On the 3rd shot, I decock again and shoot in DA followed by another shot in SA. I do this until the mag is empty.

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          • #6
            unusedusername
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 4124

            What level of training are you considering?

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            • #7
              Cnynrat
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 2221

              I always shot a few mags in DA mode during each range session. Just decock between each shot.
              Dave

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              • #8
                USM0083
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 332

                Originally posted by AeroEngi
                For range practice, what I do is I load up my P220 with 8 rounds in the mag. I chamber a round and then decock the hammer by using the decocking lever. I fire the first shot in DA followed by a shot in SA. On the 3rd shot, I decock again and shoot in DA followed by another shot in SA. I do this until the mag is empty.
                This.

                It takes a lot of practice to master a DA to SA transition.

                Smooth trigger press (doesn't matter if you're in DA or SA) and good follow through is the key.

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                • #9
                  Gryff
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • May 2006
                  • 12686

                  Originally posted by 10shootter
                  In a recent post on 'Decocker DA/SA Interpretation', TacticalCity amongst others, referenced the importance of training. Any suggestions on great DA/Sa training venues local to the SF Bay ; San Jose Sacramento areas?

                  Thanking you in advance.
                  To train for using a DA/SA gun, do things that develop hand strength. The strong your hand, the more quick and precise your initial shot will be. But for training, it doesn't matter what type of pistol you use (assuming you aren't using a revolver). The mechanics, procedures, and tactics taught in a training class are usually not dependent upon the type of trigger mechanism your gun uses.

                  I've been shooting more revolver in competition in the last couple years, so I bought a Prohands Gripmaster to help develop hand strength. I commute a lot for work, so I keep it in the car and use it when I'm stuck in traffic and need to vent some angst.
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                  • #10
                    gemini1
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2230

                    Use this when you're at the range;

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                    • #11
                      CoJo
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 613

                      good information here

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                      • #12
                        glock7
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3390

                        I don't like to dry fire when I'm practicing da/sa, I like using live fire practice. I'm not against dry firing, but it's just not the same as practicing with real ammo.
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                        • #13
                          sholling
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 10360

                          Lots and lots of DA/SA transition practice is critical for a DS/SA pistol intended for self defense. As other have said, practice that transition over and over again, however most of it needs to be live fire so that you can take into account the effect of recoil on the transition. But you'll need to go beyond even that because once you've mastered the transition then you need to move into practicing that transition while doing live fire double-taps. A DA->SA double-tap followed by a SA->SA double-tap just like you'd be doing in high stress self defense situations. Do that over and over and over until both sets of double-taps become very fast with all four rounds hitting center mass every time, and then practice some more, and then practice that a couple of times a month to keep up an easy to lose skill. There are a few trainers that will work with you to refine skills, but what you need most is tons of trigger time.
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