Help me shoot better

[voodoomedman]

Help me shoot better

This is an old target i shot a few years ago when i had my Ruger P95. And as you can see. WAY left and low.


Heres a more recent one with my 1911, and i hadnt finished adjusting the sights. But as you can see... MUCH better. The flyer, was a double tap


I should be going shooting next week sometime (if i can find some time to make some reloads) and ill grab a pic of that target

Glad it's working for you but all you've done is put a band aid on your mechanics. Dry practice didn't work for you because you weren't doing it correctly. Not trying to disrespect you, just correcting bad advice.

What you are doing is is pointing high and right with your adjusted sights so if someone else worked your trigger properly then it would hit high and right but you are working it and slapping so it's going where you want it.

It is working for you but what happens if you pick up another gun in a defensive situation. Now you will be shooting low and left because you put on the bandaid rather than fixing your trigger control.

[steves86ta]

Glad it's working for you but all you've done is put a band aid on your mechanics. Dry practice didn't work for you because you weren't doing it correctly. Not trying to disrespect you, just correcting bad advice.

What you are doing is is pointing high and right with your adjusted sights so if someone else worked your trigger properly then it would hit high and right but you are working it and slapping so it's going where you want it.

It is working for you but what happens if you pick up another gun in a defensive situation. Now you will be shooting low and left because you put on the bandaid rather than fixing your trigger control.

I understand what you are saying. I think my problem is more a problem with my eyesight than anything else.

I have tried countless hours of dry firing. I've taken a few classes, ive had friends that are excellent marksman (members here as well) and they all cant seem to help me. In my case i may just be wonky in the head.

[Ronin2]

Well, happily, you are still very clearly able to "shoot em in the middle" to defend yourself

[Che762x39]

I read through all the comments and no one suggested this yet. I'm not sure if you're already doing this, but if not...

Try using the trigger reset. After you pull the trigger, continue holding it down while the slide cycles. Then slowly release the trigger until you feel the click of the trigger reset. On a Glock the feel is very distinct and audible. Then press the trigger again to fire. Repeat. This will lessen the trigger pull and help with trigger control.

I read thru 40+ comments and best answer here!

Master the trigger first, the other comment I like is; load only three (3) rounds at a time. Three good rounds at a time is better than ten bad rounds.

[voodoomedman]

I understand what you are saying. I think my problem is more a problem with my eyesight than anything else.



I have tried countless hours of dry firing. I've taken a few classes, ive had friends that are excellent marksman (members here as well) and they all cant seem to help me. In my case i may just be wonky in the head.

Could very well be. Just not normal so not great advice to give. At least not for him as since he's fine with the laser it's obvious he's slapping the trigger anticipating the boom with real bullets.

As long as you understand your deficiency if you pick up another gun and certainly if someone else uses your gun for defense. Is hate to have to pull off the hostage taker shot with your gun and shoot the hostage because the sights are waaaay off.

[voodoomedman]

I read thru 40+ comments and best answer here!



Master the trigger first, the other comment I like is; load only three (3) rounds at a time. Three good rounds at a time is better than ten bad rounds.

Most comments are to master the trigger. This is a component certainly but trapping the trigger and resetting only to the click does nothing if you still whack the pull. That's what the focus has been on. Perfect press combined with perfect trap and reset makes for great accuracy along with speed.

[blockfort]

Ive been fighting shooting "Low Left" for a long time. Didnt matter what handgun, what caliber anything. Ive ALWAYS been low left.

For me, i would dry fire for hours a day, and dry firing did not help, i practiced as much as possible, even used up LOTS of ammo. Even with 22 i was low left

I am right handed, and left eye dominant. So i shoot left eyed and right handed. I have also tried forcing myself to use my right eye. Still the same darn problem. It didnt matter what "trick" i tried.

What finally worked for me, was i bought my 1911, and it had adjustable sights. Now im a "bullseye" shooter and enjoy my range time much more. I dont know if this is right or not but its what worked for me. I adjusted my sights up and right and no issues whatsoever. Great groups, and right where im "aiming"

With the sights adjusted, i no longer have "flyers" and my groups are great. I refuse to believe im flinching becasue if i was i would still have issues.

Just my experience, take it with a grain of salt

Changing your sights to adjust your point of impact should have absolutely no effect on flyers.

[Click Boom]

There are often techniques which I don't agree with...like the diagnostic chart above...which aren't worth correcting because their effect is mostly benign.

However, the above is not only not optimal, when shooting a Glock, but will exaggerate the OP's problem

Well, that advice is basically verbatim from Jerry Miculek and ever since I've been paying attention to it my shooting has gotten better. It's probably easier demonstrated than described so maybe there was some miscommunication.

[Click Boom]

I read through all the comments and no one suggested this yet. I'm not sure if you're already doing this, but if not...

Try using the trigger reset. After you pull the trigger, continue holding it down while the slide cycles. Then slowly release the trigger until you feel the click of the trigger reset. On a Glock the feel is very distinct and audible. Then press the trigger again to fire. Repeat. This will lessen the trigger pull and help with trigger control.

Click Boom.

[BigL]

Practice. I dont fully load my mags when i go for a range seasion. 5-6 rounds per mag concentrate on your target sights trigger control. Dont look where your shots landed till your mag is empty. Pay attention to whst your doing wrong and try to correct it. Flinching, slapping trigger and or pushing your pistol.

[9mmepiphany]

Well, that advice is basically verbatim from Jerry Miculek

I didn't know Jerry shot a Glock

It's probably easier demonstrated than described so maybe there was some miscommunication.

That might be it

[Click Boom]

I've seen miculek with a glock on youtube

[gemini1]

Here's my take. I too suffer from shooting left, though my POI is more at the 8:30-9'oclock at about 2-3" from bullseye at 7 yards. This has been my problem since I started shooting pistols. I've also went through two one on one class, but neither instructors figured out what the problem was.
There was a thread a few months ago, same problem as OP, and there was one interesting advice that caught my attention, and gave it a try.
Since using the middle pad and close to the first joint of my trigger finger, still gives me 8-9'oclock POI shots. I tried the advice of changing the position of the trigger finger, and see which or where the hold would be that will let you pull the trigger without moving the front sight.
So while dry firing, I tried to hold the trigger right after the first joint, kinda like a revolver hold. After a few adjustments, after each trigger pull, (DA/SA double stack S&W), I finally found the right (to me) hold, and pull the trigger without moving the front sight as the trigger breaks! I practiced this hold for a few nights, dry firing. And when I went to the range, I was amazed of the improvement! all my shots both on DA and SA mode, were at the center.
The only problem to me is, when dry firing one handed, my hand gets tired easily. This is probably due to the grip's double stack size, the pistol is no longer positioned at the center of the web, but more to the left. Not a problem when shooting with the support hand though. Maybe when I get a single stack pistol, I'd be able to hold it in the proper way.