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  • jeffrice6
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 5165

    SS Springers

    Stainless mil-spec's & loaded's typically run $100 over their carbon counterparts, while the stainless TRP's (at least in the CG's marketplace) tend to sell for less than their carbon equivalent...... What gives???
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  • #2
    DCF
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1188

    Isn't SA offers Black Armory Kote finish for their TRP line and Parkerized for the Mil-spec and loaded line up besides the loaded operator?

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    • #3
      jeffrice6
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2006
      • 5165

      Originally posted by DCF
      Isn't SA offers Black Armory Kote finish for their TRP line and Parkerized for the Mil-spec and loaded line up besides the loaded operator?
      What?
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      • #4
        DCF
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 1188

        So people prefer Black Armory Kote finish on the TRP line over the stainless but people prefer stainless over Parkerized finish on the mil spec and loaded line up.

        If I understand your question correctly.
        Last edited by DCF; 07-13-2014, 1:31 AM.

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        • #5
          customiiguy
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1666

          stainless trp ftw!

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          • #6
            Bill Steele
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 5028

            I have heard people say SS TRP's are available for less than Armory Kote versions, but I have not found that to be universally true.

            I do think the railed versions, tend to run higher in price, but non-railed to non-railed, I have not seen a major trend that way.

            Just a few weeks ago, I bought a like new AK Tactical (non-rail) TRP from a local Calgunner for $1250. Seemed like a pretty good price to me, the gun looked un-shot.
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            • #7
              5ZS
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 1047

              KY Gun sells both TRP (non-rail) for the same price. I do see the stainless Mil-Spec with a premium.
              Maybe it has a higher profit margin, they can absorb the cost of stainless in the TRP line.

              Bottom line is the market condition, basic black will sell faster...until they chose to discontinue a certain finish, hehe.

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              • #8
                trigger945
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2012
                • 5795

                First if all, I am not really sure that SS TRP's go for a lower price vs non-SS TRP's. There are probably select instances but it is not always true.

                Non-SS TRP has Armory Kote while non-SS Mil-Spec and Loaded models are parkerized. There is a difference there.

                Lastly, CG pricing and non-CG pricing have different behaviors. What you see "here" may not be reflective of the true market.

                Hope this helps.
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                • #9
                  jeffrice6
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 5165

                  Originally posted by trigger945
                  First if all, I am not really sure that SS TRP's go for a lower price vs non-SS TRP's. There are probably select instances but it is not always true.
                  Again, here on CG's, SS TRP's are generally less desirable than their carbon equivalent. I have even read many a post where others have steered folks away from the stainless in favor of the carbon model. Just wondering what the beef is with the SS TRP's?
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                  • #10
                    trigger945
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 5795

                    Maybe CG folks find the Armory Kote version sexier?
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                    • #11
                      Bill Steele
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 5028

                      I prefer the Armory Kote over the Stainless (or blued guns over stainless as well), mainly because I never liked the idea of a bright shiny thing in my hand if the chips were down and somebody with a gun was staring back at me. Dark low glare colors just seem to make more sense to me.

                      All the other reasons why someone would want Stainless I think still apply. Easier cleanup, etc.
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                      • #12
                        nahpungnome
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 2159

                        Put it this way, carbon steel is harder and doesn't fall prey to galling. I'm not saying that modern stainless will gall, but for an example... Baer only offers his 1.5" guarantee for his carbon steel models. Stainless can't be machined as tight for that guarantee (for Baer anyway). Plus...stainless is bare metal, the Armory Kote is extra work. Maybe that's why it's more expensive?

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                        • #13
                          jonzer77
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 8525

                          Originally posted by nahpungnome
                          Put it this way, carbon steel is harder and doesn't fall prey to galling. I'm not saying that modern stainless will gall, but for an example... Baer only offers his 1.5" guarantee for his carbon steel models. Stainless can't be machined as tight for that guarantee (for Baer anyway). Plus...stainless is bare metal, the Armory Kote is extra work. Maybe that's why it's more expensive?

                          I dunno, my PM9 has absolutely no play in the slide to frame fit and it's SS. With that said, slide to frame fit only plays a small role in accuracy.
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                          • #14
                            nahpungnome
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 2159

                            Originally posted by jonzer77
                            I dunno, my PM9 has absolutely no play in the slide to frame fit and it's SS. With that said, slide to frame fit only plays a small role in accuracy.
                            Slide to frame fit isn't the only factor for accuracy as you mentioned. I can't imagine a 1.5" Baer being any tighter on the slide to frame than my non 1.5" as there's absolutely no play at all.

                            I will say this, not making a generalization at all for stainless steel, but my Sig railed was tight when new, but now has noticeable play in battery after a little over 2000 rounds.

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                            • #15
                              customiiguy
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1666

                              Its all preference.. me personally love the bling factorof stainless pistols

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