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  • smith and wesson
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 1877

    Glock models on ca roster renewal?

    Quick question, is glock going to renew the models already on the roster?

    I'd like to get a 30sf but won't be able to have enough for one till next year.
  • #2
    tacticalcity
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Aug 2006
    • 10929

    Is it even possible for them do so? They do not have a magazine disconnect, which has since become a requirement to be on the roster. Or are they somehow grandfathered in provided they pay some renewal fee? The later would really surprise me. I'm pretty sure once they expire, they are gone since the new requirements require them to have features Glock won't add.

    For now, you can always go through a dealer that does Single Shot Exemption conversions. Temporarily converting it to single shot while you process the paper work and wait the 10 days. Once you take possession of the gun you convert it back to semi-auto by removing the kit. No harm done to the gun and perfectly legal. However, there is bill on Governor Browns desk that will make that illegal. So if he signs it into law...you're SOL.

    Feel free correct me if I am wrong on any point guys. Not an expert, this is just my understanding of how it works.
    Last edited by tacticalcity; 07-11-2014, 4:23 PM.

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    • #3
      tacticalcity
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Aug 2006
      • 10929

      I ran out and bought a Colt AR the last time a ban that would effect them hit Governor Brown's desk. I was certain he was gonna sign it...but he didn't. Ya just never know with that guy. He's a better politician than most in that he successfully plays both sides of an issue without it blowing up in his face. Don't know how he gets away with it, but he does. Last time he fell on our side of things. Who knows where he will fall this time?
      Last edited by tacticalcity; 07-11-2014, 4:27 PM.

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      • #4
        DEPUTYBILL
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 874

        It is my understanding that they can pay to renewal the gun, but if CA. DOJ finds any changes in its works(different metals, parts,) it can claim it is a "new" pistol and require retesting. It is then that the requirements of micro-stamping, loaded chamber indicator, and magazine disconnect are required.

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        • #5
          smith and wesson
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 1877

          Yeah they can just pay the fee to renew. I'm just wondering if they will renew since the 30sf is falling off in December.

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          • #6
            Sharp Shooter
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 1128

            Originally posted by tacticalcity
            Is it even possible for them do so? They do not have a magazine disconnect, which has since become a requirement to be on the roster. Or are they somehow grandfathered in provided they pay some renewal fee? The later would really surprise me. I'm pretty sure once they expire, they are gone since the new requirements require them to have features Glock won't add.

            For now, you can always go through a dealer that does Single Shot Exemption conversions. Temporarily converting it to single shot while you process the paper work and wait the 10 days. Once you take possession of the gun you convert it back to semi-auto by removing the kit. No harm done to the gun and perfectly legal. However, there is bill on Governor Browns desk that will make that illegal. So if he signs it into law...you're SOL.

            Feel free correct me if I am wrong on any point guys. Not an expert, this is just my understanding of how it works.
            You are incorrect. A gun that's on the roster can stay on the roster as long as manufacturer pays the renewal fee and doesn't make ANY changes to it. If they make any changes to it, it has to meet the current standards which is a LCI, mag disconnect and microstamping. Glock has indicated that they will continue to make the Gen 3's which are on the roster for the foreseeable future. The Gen 4's are not on the roster and never will be because Glock will not put a LCI, mag disconnect and microstamping on it.

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            • #7
              mnichols
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 2625

              Glock just has to pay the renewal fee. Ive read its around $200 per gun. No guarantees they will, but i think so.
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              • #8
                ElDub1950
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2012
                • 5688

                +1 to all the: as long as there is no change to the model, it only requires paying the ransom renewal fee.

                But I did see an internet rumor about Glock stopping manufacturing the 30SF. I have no idea if it's a fact .. it's the internet after all
                Last edited by ElDub1950; 07-11-2014, 5:13 PM.

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                • #9
                  ke6guj
                  Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by tacticalcity
                  Is it even possible for them do so? They do not have a magazine disconnect, which has since become a requirement to be on the roster. Or are they somehow grandfathered in provided they pay some renewal fee? The later would really surprise me. I'm pretty sure once they expire, they are gone since the new requirements require them to have features Glock won't add.
                  yes, they can do so, they have been "grandfathered" for a manyyears now as new requirements came on line. Mag disconnect ORLCI was required in 2006. both Mag disconnect AND LCI were required starting in 2007 for new listings. Glock maintained their pre-2006 firearms and were able to stay on the roster just by paying the yearly mordida.
                  Jack



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                  No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                  • #10
                    tacticalcity
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 10929

                    OK, I stand corrected. I think I might have known this at one point but forgot it. Because it all sounds very familiar.

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                    • #11
                      Librarian
                      Admin and Poltergeist
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 44682

                      $200 is the annual fee, per model.

                      The Real Answer should come from Glock; that said, I have heard no rumblings that they plan to drop those models.
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                      • #12
                        SDM44
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 3898

                        Originally posted by DEPUTYBILL
                        It is my understanding that they can pay to renewal the gun, but if CA. DOJ finds any changes in its works(different metals, parts,) it can claim it is a "new" pistol and require retesting. It is then that the requirements of micro-stamping, loaded chamber indicator, and magazine disconnect are required.
                        While I believe that Glock would just pay the $200 renewal fee since they'll have a strong market of new handguns available in CA that are still on the roster, I wouldn't be surprised to see some a-hole at DOJ to go out of their way to find the smallest, most minuscule change in Glock's production.... like them trying to pull a bait & switch on us by saying something absurd about the finish used on the current Gen 3 slides, and how it's not the same from a year ago ago, or some BS like that.

                        Like Librarian said, it's up to Glock to decide on what they'll do. And likewise, hope that CA DOJ doesnt come up with some reason that causes Glock to resubmit a handgun for testing using current testing rules (micro stamping).

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                        • #13
                          oddjob
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 2399

                          Last year I was sending in a Glock certificate and asked if the Gen 3's were going to be renewed on the California approved list. I asked because the time line for getting a Glock via the certificate lasted months and the model I wanted was going to go "off list."

                          I was told via e-mail that Glock had intentions of "renewing" the Gen 3's for California as long as the models were going to be continued to be produced.

                          I recently read that quite a few goverment contracts world wide still want the Gen 3 models so it seems the Gen 3's will continued to be produced. For a while anyways.

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                          • #14
                            gt86
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 346

                            I'm surprised they haven't nailed glock because they don't use tenifer anymore.

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