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  • Champagne-N-Beer
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 519

    HK USP Tactical/Mark 23 Threaded Barrel

    Hi All,

    Quick question - I have been looking for a USP tactical or USP Expert for some time.

    Ran across a Mark 23 the other day and wanted to ask those that know.

    With the threaded barrel, these are a no-no in CA.

    Must you replace the barrel to make it CA legal, or can you put thread cover protector on it?

    Thanks in advance.

    cNb
  • #2
    Deimos887
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 1673

    You can legally possess a threaded pistol barrel, however cannot have it installed in a pistol (without nullifing the threading in some form; however must be permanently affixed... thread protector, compensator, etc; OR installation of a magazine lock is required) otherwise in violation of manufacturing an "assualt weapon" in simplified terms, you can own it, but you'll have to use it out of state... and keep the unthreaded variant in your pistol while here.

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    • #3
      SamIAm
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 806

      I own a USP tactical. Rather than register it in 2000 (when unthreaded barrels were hard to come by), I had the threads removed. Obviously, it hasn't affected performance. It also hasn't affected the price.

      A few folks have given me crap for neutering my gun. Some of those folks have then immediately asked me whether I would sell it for much more than I paid for it. The answer is no. Unless you plan on shooting it out of state with a can or selling it out of state, you don't need the threads. So long as we have this stupid list and the stupid ban in California, I wouldn't worry about being able to offload this thing if you ever get bored with it.

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      • #4
        knowran
        Junior Member
        • May 2012
        • 91

        You can remove the threads on the barrel. My brother bought an extra barrel for his Mark 23 and removed the threads so he can keep the original barrel without any modifications to it.

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        • #5
          seainc
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1209

          OP. where are you located? I maybe able to help.

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          • #6
            djflash
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 945

            Put a bullet button on it then you can legally run it with a threaded barrel.

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            • #7
              RickD427
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jan 2007
              • 9274

              Originally posted by djflash
              Put a bullet button on it then you can legally run it with a threaded barrel.
              And just where do you find one of these "Bullet Buttons" for the Mark 23???
              If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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              • #8
                Deimos887
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 1673

                ^ lol, um yeah... in this case "magazine lock" = file/grind down the original mag release so you can't release it without a tool. Who'd want that just to run a threaded barrel, which for the Mark 23, primary purpose was to readily adapt the suppressor you cant have here anyway

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                • #9
                  seainc
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1209

                  cost for the mag release part is $23. if file/grind down is possible then is few hundreds cheaper than getting a non-threaded barrel.

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                  • #10
                    Deimos887
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 1673

                    Originally posted by seainc
                    cost for the mag release part is $23. if file/grind down is possible then is few hundreds cheaper than getting a non-threaded barrel.
                    Good point.

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                    • #11
                      RickD427
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 9274

                      Originally posted by Deimos887
                      ^ lol, um yeah... in this case "magazine lock" = file/grind down the original mag release so you can't release it without a tool. Who'd want that just to run a threaded barrel, which for the Mark 23, primary purpose was to readily adapt the suppressor you cant have here anyway
                      That's not gonna work on a Mark 23. The mag release is not a "Button" that can be recessed to the point you need a tool.

                      The mag release is a lever. No matter how far you grind it down, there's still going to be exposed surface that you can manipulate by grasp to release the magazine.
                      If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                      • #12
                        Deimos887
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1673

                        Originally posted by RickD427
                        That's not gonna work on a Mark 23. The mag release is not a "Button" that can be recessed to the point you need a tool.

                        The mag release is a lever. No matter how far you grind it down, there's still going to be exposed surface that you can manipulate by grasp to release the magazine.
                        ....I don't know how that detail slipped by me, I knew that too

                        ah well you can scratch "magazine lock" off the options list, OP.

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                        • #13
                          RickD427
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 9274

                          Originally posted by Deimos887
                          ....I don't know how that detail slipped by me, I knew that too

                          ah well you can scratch "magazine lock" off the options list, OP.
                          That's too bad. The Mark 23 is a classic weapon. I really had to see folks needing to deal with the threaded barrel. Your idea is right on point. If the magazine were fixed, that would take it out of the AW definition.
                          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                          • #14
                            sjg1966
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 1047

                            I got this for my USP Tactical and keep the original factory barrel in a safe place.

                            Watch Astro steal brass and take it into his cage....
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4B_pd-yRWE&hd=1

                            Glock 20C at indoor range....
                            http://youtu.be/T4bP8DnhT9Q

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                            • #15
                              jdben92883
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 3635

                              You can always just duct-tape a brick to the end of a standard USP and then you can enjoy the heft and girth of a MK23.
                              NRA Benefactor Member

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