XDS differences (3.3" vs 4.0") (9mm vs .45)

[voodoomedman]

I normally carry my full size XD45. When I just can't hide it out and a out like in a suit or going running or to the gym I take my XDs. I have the 3.3 in 45. Only one when I bought but I'm a 45 guy. I say go with the caliber you normally carry. Also think about your purpose. For me if I had the option is still go 3.3 so I can put it in a pocket. If it's for your belt, especially IWB then go 4 inch.

I will be putting on Trijicon's but I'm not touching the trigger. It's a great trigger. Now my full size is getting a Springfield Custom job.


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[zippyd8]

I stand corrected, you are not required to retreat, but given this state's unfriendliness toward guns, do you want to explain to a LEO or a jury why you were firing at someone in public 50 yards away rather than running the opposite direction? The point is, as someone else stated, 99.9999x10^n percent of the time, you'll be defending yourself at a distance at which an extra .7 inches doesn't provide a significant advantage.

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I agree with you. For the majority of situations we would NEED to draw, a 3.3" would be sufficient. 3.3" barrel seems to be the winner, and I am leaning towards the .45 simply because at such a close range, I probably would rather have the extra stopping power over 2 extra smaller rounds. I just called my local range On Target and they don't have any XDS's to rent

[Shenaniguns]

I can't see a reason not to go to the longer slide, it should translate to slightly less felt recoil, higher velocity, longer sight radius and not any tougher to conceal.

[Shenaniguns]

I agree with you. For the majority of situations we would NEED to draw, a 3.3" would be sufficient. 3.3" barrel seems to be the winner, and I am leaning towards the .45 simply because at such a close range, I probably would rather have the extra stopping power over 2 extra smaller rounds. I just called my local range On Target and they don't have any XDS's to rent

Stopping power?

[zippyd8]

I can't see a reason not to go to the longer slide, it should translate to slightly less felt recoil, higher velocity, longer sight radius and not any tougher to conceal.

But wouldn't you sacrifice a little comfort and ability to conceal? This, over time, might make you less likely to carry it day-in and day-out

[zippyd8]

Stopping power?

Stopping power of the .45 round over the 9mm I mean

[JLH]

Well, I just bought the XDS 9mm 4.0 for my CCW. I decided to take the longer barrel route based on wanting to go to Front Sight for training on the same gun that I would be carrying. I just felt it would be more fun at Front Sight than a pocket rocket, but I could be wrong. I chose the 9mm again because I would be going to Front Sight and shooting 500-800 fifty cent pieces in a weekend is just too expensive.

I have had it for about 4 weeks now and been the range 3 times. I absolutely love it and don't find the extra length to be too cumbersome. I also have a .40 m&p shield. The extra length of the XDS doesn't seem to be any less comfortable than the smaller shield.

You can't go wrong, they are great guns.

[SoGetThis]

The slide is not the hard part to conceal, I guarantee nobody will feel a difference in that difference in length. Carrying a Glock 17 over a 19 makes no differences for me in length of the barrel and Slide, but the 17's grip will slightly print when my 19 doesn't.

It depends on how you carry. In pocket carry it becomes noticeable but the XDS isn't really suited toward that. With appendix carry and sitting down a shorter barrel is more comfortable for me. Basing this off the shield vs various 4" service pistols.

Yeah that's nonsense with modern ammo. Read up on DocGKR and how the differences in real life are miniscule in regards to their ballistics.

Yeah there's a number of 9mm SD rounds made for shorter barrels that perform quite well so caliber shouldn't really matter.

[Stryprod]

The slide is not the hard part to conceal, I guarantee nobody will feel a difference in that difference in length. Carrying a Glock 17 over a 19 makes no differences for me in length of the barrel and Slide, but the 17's grip will slightly print when my 19 doesn't.

I disagree, but I think it depends on how you carry and wear your clothes. When at my preferred 3-4 o'clock, and sitting in my car or desk, my longer slide weapon becomes very uncomfortable and pushes my belt up. When upright the problem is far less noticeable, but I spend far more time sitting.

I will admit that being "younger" I do where my belt lower on my hips as opposed to how my late grandfather wore his pants.

[mag360]

It is probably unwise to think all self defense shootings are "within 5 feet" mentality. Think about a grocery store or a mall. You might need to make a 25-35 yard shot. Not saying you should carry a glock 17 but it would be good to be able to hit a target accurately at that distance with your carry gun.

[zippyd8]

It is probably unwise to think all self defense shootings are "within 5 feet" mentality. Think about a grocery store or a mall. You might need to make a 25-35 yard shot. Not saying you should carry a glock 17 but it would be good to be able to hit a target accurately at that distance with your carry gun.

Right with this, but again the 3.3" barrel would be sufficient in this type of scenario

[williamcm]

What reliability issues did he experience without the pinkie extension?

My buddy had some FTF issues with his .45, but I had none in about 40rounds. So naturally I called him a pansy and told him to stop limpwristing it.

He got the $10 pinky floor plate and hasn't had a problem. He read it was common for some people's shooting styles on the XD website.

Great guns both. I may have to just cough up the cash for the .45 now as it's the only reliable, comfortable, and accurate (for me).45 I can afford to buy and have the option to carry while camping and CCW if not my LCP.

[GR8Guns]

I just added the 3.3 in .45 to my ccw. It replaces my Kahr P45. I have a few 9mms, both steel and polymer. My follow up shot times seem to be the same with either caliber. I love shooting .45 and I'll always have one in my carry rotation. I wanted it as small as I could get it and still be reliable, accurate and effective. The 3.3 in 45 ACP fits the bill. I can't say that I've ever been nervous about being able to defend myself using a short barreled .45, at least not because of the length of the gun. My .02 cents. YMMV

[LBDamned]

3.3 is perfect, 4.0 isn't necessary. The extra length won't make much difference in stopping someone but does make conceal more of a pain depending how you plan to carry. Ie pocket carry. Its a SELF-Defense gun not a target gun. 99% of all attack are within 5 feet distance. To make a shot more than 50 feet is not likely. Its not a Hollywood movie. Its self defense, not be a hero and hunt down shooter and engage them far far away and expect to not hit any bystanders. So remember self defense and majority of attacks 5 feet away.

I personally carry the XDS .45 3.3 Its a pocket canon the smallest .45 in its class able pocket carry if I want. Getting a 9mm in a XDS .45 size seems pointless. If I go 9mm it wouldn't be an XDS. Capacity isn't a concern for me. 6 rounds is plenty and reloading is very fast with a 7 round magazine, if you're worried carry two 7 round magazines a total of 20 rounds.

In reality at MOST you might be confronted by 6 bad guys. When you fire a shot or take one guy down the rest will scatter like cowards. Watch all the surveillance video all you want of robberies or attacks, those cowards always scram when they confront resistance. A gun battle is Hollywood mentality. Remember they are low life, cowards preying on victims not a fighter.

Maybe you might run into a guy hyped up on drugs, well shoot him till he drops. There's no magic bullet especially those on drugs. You can hit them with several 12 gauge buck shot and there's no guarantee especially if their on bath salt.

If you want to carry lots of bullets unless you are an assassin, or protecting someone from being assassinated you really don't need all those bullets. Or you have a target painted on your head by gang members/Mafia then maybe you should carry something with heavy fire power. Otherwise all the talk about having to carry tons of ammo on you for a extended gun battle with many bad guys is fantasy.

For 9mm which I mentioned wouldn't be in XDS because of its size, I rather carry a 9mm PM9, Sig P938, or Shield. But since you're a lefty with the ambi mag release XDS 9mm might be right for you.

If you have a range that can rent you a 9mm XDS and 45 XDS that would be best.

was pointed here from a more recent thread... and at the risk of necro bump, I just had to comment on the great post!