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  • af6154
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2

    PPT sale

    What's standard procedure when doing a private party transfer? Does the seller usually take 100% of the price before the 10 days or after? My only concern is what happens should the transfer be denied or something would I be out money?
  • #2
    code33
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2004
    • 971

    Typically, buyer pays seller 100%. Buyer pays FFL $35. DROS is then started.

    There is a level of trust and concern on both sides. A denial may come from either side.
    Last edited by code33; 09-02-2008, 2:21 AM.
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    I am not a lawyer. Nothing in my posts should be considered legal advice.

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    • #3
      liketoshoot
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3810

      You should know if you do not qualify to own a gun before you try to buy one. As a seller you would get the gun back if the buyer did not qualify, as a buyer you should(if dealing with a legitimate seller)get your money back. It all comes down to trust, look what happened to the deal from the "crackhead" it completed and the buyer was worried the whole time.
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      • #4
        JMB1911
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 948

        If the buyer isn't approved, the seller will have to re-DROS the gun to himself. At least this is what I've been told by 3 different places when I was doing PPTs.

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        • #5
          tonelar
          Dinosaur
          • Mar 2008
          • 6081

          My Rules on PPT firearm sales.

          SELLER: Get 100% of your money PRIOR to DROSing... I wouldn't let a gun out of my possession until it was paid for in full.

          BUYER: Make "not wasting the seller's time" a priority.
          Last edited by tonelar; 09-02-2008, 8:39 AM.
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          • #6
            5150Marcelo
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2008
            • 7681

            Originally posted by tonelar
            SELLER: Get 100% of your money PRIOR to DROSing... I wouldn't let a gun out of my possession until it was paid for in full.
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            • #7
              Trader Jack
              Banned
              • Oct 2005
              • 452

              Originally posted by JMB1911
              If the buyer isn't approved, the seller will have to re-DROS the gun to himself. At least this is what I've been told by 3 different places when I was doing PPTs.
              Three different FFL's who have it wrong. YOU DO NOT have to re-dros.

              Both the buyer AND the seller are background checked by the DOJ at the time of the DROS

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              • #8
                Gryff
                CGSSA Coordinator
                • May 2006
                • 12686

                Originally posted by tonelar
                My Rules on PPT firearm sales.

                SELLER: Get 100% of your money PRIOR to DROSing... I wouldn't let a gun out of my possession until it was paid for in full.

                BUYER: Make "not wasting the seller's time" a priority.
                +1 on that!
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                • #9
                  happy_gunner
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 777

                  Originally posted by Trader Jack
                  Three different FFL's who have it wrong. YOU DO NOT have to re-dros.

                  Both the buyer AND the seller are background checked by the DOJ at the time of the DROS
                  I'm wondering on this too, what happens when the buyer don't pull through, I heard of stories but what's the law on this?

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                  • #10
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                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44677

                    Originally posted by happy_gunner
                    I'm wondering on this too, what happens when the buyer don't pull through, I heard of stories but what's the law on this?
                    PC 12082
                    ...
                    If the dealer cannot legally deliver the firearm to
                    the purchaser or transferee or the person being loaned the firearm,
                    the dealer shall forthwith, without waiting for the conclusion of the
                    waiting period described in Sections 12071 and 12072, return the
                    firearm to the transferor or seller or the person loaning the
                    firearm. The dealer shall not return the firearm to the seller or
                    transferor or the person loaning the firearm when to do so would
                    constitute a violation of subdivision (a) of Section 12072.

                    ...
                    Underlined part shows a background check is required for the seller, but no indication of where in the process that happens. In practice, both seller and purchaser information are entered into the DROS software at the beginning of the transaction - DROS Entry System for the Internet, DROS Entry Application User Manual Doc Ver 9.02 / App Ver 3.34, p 56
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                    • #11
                      joeyriv
                      Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 336

                      To add to this question, I'm getting ready to do a PPT of 2 long guns and 2 handguns in one transaction. Is it just one fee of $35 for all 4 guns?
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                      • #12
                        domokun
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3525

                        Originally posted by joeyriv
                        To add to this question, I'm getting ready to do a PPT of 2 long guns and 2 handguns in one transaction. Is it just one fee of $35 for all 4 guns?
                        No. Only one handgun per DROS if I'm not mistaken but you may have as many long guns on the DROS form as "additional guns". So to answer your question it'd be $70 for all 4 guns.
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                        • #13
                          Ironchef
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                          • Nov 2007
                          • 2313

                          Interesting. I never knew the seller is also checked.
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                          • #14
                            halifax
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4440

                            Originally posted by domokun
                            No. Only one handgun per DROS if I'm not mistaken but you may have as many long guns on the DROS form as "additional guns". So to answer your question it'd be $70 for all 4 guns.
                            Isn't the second hangun DROS cheaper? $21, I think
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                            • #15
                              joeyriv
                              Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 336

                              Originally posted by domokun
                              No. Only one handgun per DROS if I'm not mistaken but you may have as many long guns on the DROS form as "additional guns". So to answer your question it'd be $70 for all 4 guns.
                              Wishful thinking on my part. Thanks.
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