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  • saudadeii
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 3458

    SR1911 CMD Odd Primer Marks

    Took my new SR1911 "Commander" to the range today. Brought 125 rounds of 230g FMJs and some spare mags.

    I started with 25 Herters and ran 5 each through the 2 Ruger mags that came with it, 2 CM Shooting Stars and a Kimpro SS. I did have an issue with the CMs and a failure to feed the last round but I'll save that for a different thread.

    First, every one went bang, no problem there. I then switched to Freedom Munitions reloads. Every one went bang. Somewhere around the 3rd mag of the FM, one of the cases bounced off the booth wall and landed on the platform in front of me. So I picked it up to look at it. I noticed a very odd mark on the primer. So I looked around on the floor for some more. Of course, the people shooting in the booth on either side were shooting 45's so it was hard to tell which were mine. (plus everyone was sweeping the floor too). The pics follow. As you can see there's a strange gouge on the primer. I found this on about a dozen cases. It seemed to clear up after a while, but I can't be sure I was picking up my brass as opposed to the others.

    When I got home, I carefully inspected the breech face and detailed striped the slide to inspect the firing pin and extractor claw. I couldn't see anything that may have caused this.

    I have an RIA Tactical that I've shot the same ammo using the same spare mags and haven't seen anything like this. Anyone have any ideas what may cause this?

    I apologize in advance for the size of the pics.

    You can see the gouge here just outside of the FP strike.


    An oblique shot of the gouge. It stands pretty tall.


    A side view.


    The breech face from underneath.


    The breech face from topside
    Last edited by saudadeii; 06-15-2014, 3:24 PM.
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    saudadeii
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 3458

    I should add, I had no issues with ejection/extraction. The booths are a bit narrow so I couldn't tell what direction they went. None came straight back at me. More than a few bounced of the walls of the stall and hit my arms, my head, etc, but that happens with everything I've shot there.
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    • #3
      nahpungnome
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 2159

      Wow that's weird, I've never seen anything like that before. Did you get those on the last round in each mag? If so maybe the follower is doing it?

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      • #4
        saudadeii
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 3458

        Honestly I have no idea what mags these may have come from or what # in the stack. Next time I go, I'll restrict it to the Ruger mags and collect the brass right away.

        I searched for similar posts and found quite a bit but they seem to be more machining errors on the slide or ejector marks.
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        • #5
          5ZS
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2014
          • 1047

          Primer cratering maybe, and I an just guessing due to soft primer.

          You did not find any Herter's brass?

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          • #6
            saudadeii
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 3458

            Originally posted by 5ZS
            Primer cratering maybe, and I an just guessing due to soft primer.

            You did not find any Herter's brass?
            I didn't. I didn't know I had an issue and swept the brass fwd of the line. The adjacent shooter's were doing the same.

            I have factory fresh ammo (Blazer, WWB, PMC etc.) I'll shoot some of them next time and collect it right away.

            It definitely looks like something struck the primer to raise the brass. It feels pretty sharp. Like hitting a piece of wood with a chisel before the chip breaks off.
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            • #7
              saudadeii
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 3458

              I posted this Sunday when many were "off" for Father's day. Let this be a mid-week bump.

              I opened the envelope with the test fired brass and it had no such marks. I'll bring some more FM, as well as other factory loads to the range and see if it's still doing it.

              meanwhile, if anyone has see such marks before, please chime in.
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