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  • #16
    hossb7
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2006
    • 3285

    Originally posted by Mossy Man
    this actually makes a lot of sense.

    doing some dryfire practice, i find that i grip the G26 a lot harder than I do my 19 since i feel like I have so much less surface area to hold onto.

    just easing up on it while dryfiring seems to be a more even feel.

    gonna try this out next time
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    • #17
      NaClAddict
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 1195

      Definitely bench rest it to make sure it's not a sight issue. The magazine grip extension may help. It's funny how small changes can make big differences. For some reason I shoot much better with my g23 than a g22. It's been that way since before I bought my g23. I noticed this when trying out different glocks. My hands aren't even small. I can palm a b-ball if I hold it just right. Even though it's got a shorter sight radius it just fits my hand and points so naturally. I love it.

      Really pay attention to your index finger placement on your shooting hand. It's really easy to get that finger to far in there. With the smaller grip pulling the trigger can pull the gun off target very easily.

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      • #18
        RKBA-SNBI
        Gravity Storm Chaser
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2014
        • 100

        Use your G19 mags as a test to get a "full grip" could help you rule out the sights as the issue.

        I have large hands and usually will shoot better with a G26 or G29 than with a G17 or G20 never tried to analyse it until I read this last night by Massad Ayoob. Almost two years ago I took his Mag40 class in SLC he shot a perfect 300 in the test using a G26.

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        • #19
          The Soup Nazi
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 2455

          My insight from bullseye competition: Shift your firing hand in the direction that your group is impacting. In this case, since you're hitting left, shift your hand "left" so that your thumb is closer to the trigger. Dryfire with only one hand to observe if the gun naturally drifts left or right when you squeeze (not pull) the trigger and adjust your grip accordingly. Once you have a grip that maintains point of aim, put your second hand there to provide support.

          Edited to add: If you curl your fingers inboard like a lot of shooters do, your gun will naturally drift inboard as well. Thus, any pressure you exert with your firing hand should only be on the front and back of the grip rather than trying to muscle/wrap your hands around it entirely. If you can master this grip with a single hand, two hands will be cake.

          Stance/foot placement plays a roll too. Close your eyes, raise your weapon up to its natural point of aim, breath a couple of times then open your eyes. If your sights settled naturally on the bullseye, you're good to go. If not, perform an adjustment of your feet then repeat the cycle. At longer distances, this is especially helpful since you don't have to exert any force muscling the gun in the direction you want it to point at.
          Last edited by The Soup Nazi; 06-05-2014, 2:47 PM.

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          • #20
            23 Blast
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 3754

            Bullets hitting to left of POA?

            Simple solution: aim to the right of where you want bullets to impact!

            Seriously - you've received plenty of good advice already.
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            • #21
              TrojanX4
              Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 341

              Do some dry firing to see if your grip is causing the gun to drift to the left when you pull the trigger. Usually if you are shooting low and to the left it means you are squeezing the grip rather than applying isometric pressure.

              Your shooting hand should be pushing forward and your non-shooting hand should be pulling backward giving you isometric tension that runs parallel with the gun. This helps keep the gun stable and if done properly it should not allow the gun to move to the right or left when you pull the trigger..

              If you instead try squeezing the grip with your shooting hand, it will naturally tend to shoot to the opposite side of your shooting hand.

              Also, sometimes people flinch in anticipation of the next round firing and the flinch can also cause shots to go down and sometimes down and left. It helps to apply a consistently even pressure throughout the trigger pull and then there should be a surprise break when the round goes off. This might keep you focused on the front sight and the trigger pull and not anticipating the recoil from your shot.
              Last edited by TrojanX4; 06-05-2014, 4:50 PM.

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              • #22
                CMBrowning
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 918

                Originally posted by ElDub1950
                Since you're good with your G19 and assuming you use the same trigger technique on the G26, I'd guess you're over compensating on your grip pressure to make up for the lack of pinky grip, doing just a little extra grip squeeze at the end.
                I agree with this guy! a glock 26 (probably any small gun) takes technique to shoot. dry fire the 26 a lot. I shoot my 17 very well but once I got my 26 I was shooting either left or right past 10 yards. I noticed the change in grip size caused my trigger pull to suffer. I took about 2 weeks of handling and dryfiring the 26 before taking it to the range. it has helped a lot. that is a gun I had to learn to shoot even though I was coming from a glock.
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                • #23
                  Mossy Man
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 7641

                  Originally posted by CMBrowning
                  I agree with this guy! a glock 26 (probably any small gun) takes technique to shoot. dry fire the 26 a lot. I shoot my 17 very well but once I got my 26 I was shooting either left or right past 10 yards. I noticed the change in grip size caused my trigger pull to suffer. I took about 2 weeks of handling and dryfiring the 26 before taking it to the range. it has helped a lot. that is a gun I had to learn to shoot even though I was coming from a glock.
                  Update: I followed this advise along with being mindful of death gripping, and my second range trip was WAAY better. Still need practice, but I'm back to cantrlope sized 25 yard groups and apricot sized groups at 7y that reflect POA.

                  More practice will tighten those up.

                  Thanks for the suggestions, all

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                  • #24
                    Dattebayo
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 2344

                    Originally posted by punisheryayarea
                    I believe this is only for one handed shooting and doesn't really apply to shooting with two hands.

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                    • #25
                      Sig Marine
                      Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 347





                      I believe "THIS" is the correct wheel for two-handed shooting...
                      Seriously, you've gotten a lot of good replies...Sig Marine

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                      • #26
                        34marine
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 117

                        Originally posted by Mossy Man
                        So I have a lot of rounds through my G19, and I shoot pretty well with it. I generally am spot on at 7y, and a fist size at 25y. Ok, maybe an Andre the Giant sized fist, but the point is, Itsmy POI is my POA.

                        I just picked up a brand new G26 and im consistently shooting left. Maybe an inch left at 7y, and worse farther out.

                        Too little trigger finger? Too much?

                        Suggestions please.
                        As a range officer, finger pad only trigger finger. Too much/too little as you said could be it. I've seen some with recoil anticipation go left only, mostly go low left though. Try working on finger placement and report back. I've heard numerous times from others that there sights are off (could be, mostly it's something we are doing and not the sights). Good luck, let us know what happens.

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                        • #27
                          hossb7
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3285

                          Originally posted by Mossy Man
                          Update: I followed this advise along with being mindful of death gripping, and my second range trip was WAAY better. Still need practice, but I'm back to cantrlope sized 25 yard groups and apricot sized groups at 7y that reflect POA.

                          More practice will tighten those up.

                          Thanks for the suggestions, all
                          Good to know the "death grip" suggestion worked. I'm looking forward to seeing if that's causing my left-shooting on my Gen4
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                          • #28
                            Port Authority
                            Member
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 231

                            My brother shot his G23, right handed double grip, comically left for years.

                            I was recently able to convince him that for just target plinking, the only grip requirement was that it did not come loose and fall to the ground.

                            I got him shooting one handed w/ that light grip, like I do, and he's a very good one and two handed plinker now.

                            Over the last year he is back up to a firm grip w/o any extra to throw his aim off when action shooting.

                            Port
                            .
                            "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire

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                            • #29
                              71MUSTY
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 7029

                              Originally posted by Snoopy47
                              I suspect you are right handed.

                              If using two hands to shoot with, put more force on your grip with your LEFT hand. You are torquing the gun to the left with you pull the trigger with your right.
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                              • #30
                                Mossy Man
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 7641

                                thanks for the tips.

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