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  • Terminal Ballistics
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 36

    Which 1911 model???

    I have a friend that is thinking of purchasing a 1911 style hand gun. He was thinking about purchasing either a kimber SIS, a Springfield Champion Operator or a Para Super Hawg. Which one do you folks think is the better choice? I have no idea and wanted your opinions, thanks!
  • #2
    BHPFan
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 2264

    Either KImber or Springfield. Nothing against Para, but I heard of a lot of hit and miss.
    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    ~ Benjamin Franklin

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    • #3
      bigchelis
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 667

      It depends what he wants to do with it.

      I had the same difficult choice late last year.

      I choose Kimber based on what it would cost to get front serrations if it didn't have it.

      No matter how good a trigger is, a gunsmith trigger job will blow your mind away. Crisp, lighter, shorter,

      Magwell, safeties (ambi) and so on.

      At the end I concluded the Kimber could be modified to my hearts content with the least amount of money invested.

      Otherwise I would have got a Springfield 38 super crome and plain or a Smith and Wesson laser 1911.

      Look into trigger designs, Kimbers cost around $125 to $150 to modify

      some of the others are at least double that. If memory serves me well for the smith and wesson 1911 all my quotes for trigger jobs were $300 range.
      Several Glocks

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      • #4
        Knauga
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 1383

        Unless this is out of state or some sort of LEO exemption he's not going to find a Champion Operator. They aren't on the party approved list.

        If I could get one in this state at a reasonable price I'd do it right quick, sweet gun.

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        • #5
          Kruzr
          In Memoriam
          • Oct 2005
          • 1751

          I'd say your friend needs to go to a gunstore and handle those guns since they will feel very different from one to another. He may also want to check the DOJ list if he is in California since more than one of his choices won't be available here.

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          • #6
            Terminal Ballistics
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 36

            My friend is indeed in a free state, lucky bastard As far as the pistol is concerned I guess I'll tell him to handle each one and see which one he likes best. Perhaps I'll lean him towards the Champion Operator a bit more. Thanks for the input.

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            • #7
              aplinker
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              • Feb 2007
              • 16762

              If he's out of state he should really consider STI or the Kimber Warrior.

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              • #8
                tazmanian devil dog
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 1304

                Ed Brown Pistols work real well for me. I have never had a problem with them.

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                • #9
                  dgey
                  Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 431

                  all three are good guns... my personal preferance if the Kimber..., but I'm biased, I own 3.
                  Doug

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                  • #10
                    Mr. Meeseeks
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2951

                    If Kimber get the TLE (all you really need), not the SIS, IMHO its too gimmicky. The Springfield operator would be great too.

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                    • #11
                      gumby
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 2331

                      Like TAZ says, get an Ed Brown. My kobra carry has been perfect.

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                      • #12
                        oghl888
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 612

                        Originally posted by gumby
                        Like TAZ says, get an Ed Brown. My kobra carry has been perfect.
                        Kobra Carry is the best commander size 1911 in my opinion. The S&W PD commander is also very good, but doesn't have the bobbed tail for easier carry.

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                        • #13
                          Terminal Ballistics
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 36

                          Thanks guys, I'll let him know. I guess it'll make his decision a bit easier

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                          • #14
                            goathead
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 3601

                            kimber

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