Single Shot Exemption Question

[rcastaneda]

So I plan on building an AR pistol pretty soon, but before I do I would like to get a grasp on how the SSE thing works. Namely, do I need to go through the SSE process if I'm building an AR pistol from the ground up? If so, how would I/ what is the best way to go about doing this? Thanks for the help.

[XD40Kyle]

80% lower is the best way

[scott_kart]

80% lower is the best way

Actually, the only way from the ground up.
Read this thread, it will answer your questions.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=390460

[rcastaneda]

If I use an 80% do I need to go through the SSE process?

[bajadan]

If I use an 80% do I need to go through the SSE process?

Technically per law you need to insert a 0 Round Sled into the BB %80 lower first. Than you can remove the sled for a 10 round magazine.

[rcastaneda]

Technically per law you need to insert a 0 Round Sled into the BB %80 lower first. Than you can remove the sled for a 10 round magazine.

So would a lower receiver magwell vice work as a 0 round sled?

[CSACANNONEER]

Actually, the only way from the ground up.
Read this thread, it will answer your questions.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=390460

FAIL. Here are a few other ways:

One could PPT a virgin lower registered as a handgun in CA.

One could purchase a complete handgun and then strip it down and rebuild it.

One could start with a 60%, 40%, 20% or just a hunk of material (0%).

One could make a receiver from sheet metal. Yes, it has been done.

One could carve a receiver out of wood. Again, it has already been done.

One could use a 3D printer to print a receiver from nothing. Yep, has been done.

One could make a receiver out of pancakes. AFAIK, it hasn't been done yet but, I keep threatening to do it.

Now, there are possibly other ways but, I'm not going to get into them right now.

[rcastaneda]

FAIL. Here are a few other ways:

One could PPT a virgin lower registered as a handgun in CA.

One could purchase a complete handgun and then strip it down and rebuild it.

One could start with a 60%, 40%, 20% or just a hunk of material (0%).

One could make a receiver from sheet metal. Yes, it has been done.

One could carve a receiver out of wood. Again, it has already been done.

One could use a 3D printer to print a receiver from nothing. Yep, has been done.

One could make a receiver out of pancakes. AFAIK, it hasn't been done yet but, I keep threatening to do it.

Now, there are possibly other ways but, I'm not going to get into them right now.

I like that pancake receiver idea... I think thats how I'll do it.

[XD40Kyle]

If I use an 80% do I need to go through the SSE process?

You don't have to go through any "process" as far as i know of. there's no ffl, no registration, no paper work

[bajadan]

So would a lower receiver magwell vice work as a 0 round sled?

A lot of people take a old GI magazine and block/rivet it. Some cal guns members take pictures of ARpistol builds in 0 round sled configuration for legal purposes. Its up to you what you want to use to be complaint for your SSE build.

[rcastaneda]

You don't have to go through any "process" as far as i know of. there's no ffl, no registration, no paper work

The process I was referring to was making it an SSE gun, but as I have found out, that is necessary.

[rcastaneda]

A lot of people take a old GI magazine and block/rivet it. Some cal guns members take pictures of ARpistol builds in 0 round sled configuration for legal purposes. Its up to you what you want to use to be complaint for your SSE build.

So would a block of wood, for instance, work?

[CSACANNONEER]

You don't have to go through any "process" as far as i know of. there's no ffl, no registration, no paper work

Uh, it is ILLEGAL to manufacture an "unsafe handgun" in CA. So, yea, he does have to go through the SSE process to be legal. Of course, no documentation or proof is required but, that doesn't mean it's legal to not do it.

[CSACANNONEER]

I like that pancake receiver idea... I think thats how I'll do it.

I'm half way serious about doing it. I'm just not sure if I want to mix a bonding agent in with the pancakes or try making Ellie May Clampett type pancakes.

So would a block of wood, for instance, work?

Yes, anything that blocks the magwell would work.

[XD40Kyle]

Uh, it is ILLEGAL to manufacture an "unsafe handgun" in CA. So, yea, he does have to go through the SSE process to be legal. Of course, no documentation or proof is required but, that doesn't mean it's legal to not do it.

What I meant was you don't need an ffl type process. I was unaware of the 0 round sled though