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  • Darksyde
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 71

    Handgun VS Stance

    Does the type of weapon ( Pistol, revolver,) determine your stance?

    For instance, I find the center axis relock system ideal for shooting left handed with a glock 19 but not as affective with my Da/SA Sig SP2022.

    I don't own a revolver but I'd assume it would also be difficult.

    I ask this from a competitive shooting standpoint as I hope many of us have not had much practice in real world conflicts.

    My personal natural stance seems to be weaver for most situations.
  • #2
    P5Ret
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2010
    • 6401

    The situation dictates stance/position more than the type of gun for me.

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    • #3
      Leethe4th
      Banned
      • Feb 2014
      • 429

      Originally posted by Darksyde
      Does the type of weapon ( Pistol, revolver,) determine your stance?


      I ask this from a competitive shooting standpoint as I hope many of us have not had much practice in real world conflicts.

      My personal natural stance seems to be weaver for most situations.
      The fundamentals of stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control remain the same for any weapon platform. No competition shooter uses Weaver or center axis relock. You will find that out if you ever shoot a USPSA match.

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      • #4
        44fred
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 2399

        Never knew what CAR was until now.
        Thanks for making me Google it.
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        • #5
          SoGetThis
          Member
          • Apr 2014
          • 304

          Originally posted by Leethe4th
          The fundamentals of stance, grip, sight picture and trigger control remain the same for any weapon platform. No competition shooter uses Weaver or center axis relock. You will find that out if you ever shoot a USPSA match.
          So for a rifle then you'd use isosceles too?

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          • #6
            Darksyde
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2014
            • 71

            I actually just had my first IDPA match and thought that even the best shooters there looked awkward shooting around barriers on their weak side. I was thinking a quick switch to the CAR system would be ideal.

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            • #7
              9mmepiphany
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2008
              • 8075

              Originally posted by Darksyde
              I actually just had my first IDPA match and thought that even the best shooters there looked awkward shooting around barriers on their weak side. I was thinking a quick switch to the CAR system would be ideal.
              That is because they are crowding cover

              If you can remember to correctly step back from your cover, it is much easier to shoot from the Isosceles and it allows a better field of view while exposing less of your body
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              • #8
                Lead Waster
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                • Sep 2010
                • 16650

                Originally posted by jessegpresley
                A natural stance is not weaver. The only time officers shoot weaver is if they were already in a weaver stance before shooting began. It's not natural to turn to a bladed stance, drop your support hand elbow and then fire. Isosceles is the natural shooting position in a startle response. Watch any officer involved shooting on YouTube. If surprised, they're square to the target.

                The only people who shoot CAR are people who teach CAR. It's not used by any agency or MIL group of any renown.

                Weaver and CAR are not shot by ANY world class competitors. It's an isosceles world.

                Well, it was when Jack Weaver used it!

                CAR is just weird. I dunno, maybe it works, I won't be trying it ever.
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                • #9
                  StrikeIndustries
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 159

                  Use what is comfortable for you.

                  Having said that, you should be using isosceles for most applications, no matter what pistol you are shooting.

                  Weaver is outdated and C.A.R is just silly.
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                  • #10
                    GiddyHitch
                    Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 274

                    Originally posted by StrikeIndustries
                    Use what is comfortable for you.

                    Having said that, you should be using isosceles for most applications, no matter what pistol you are shooting.

                    Weaver is outdated and C.A.R is just silly.
                    Seems like isosceles would break down in a CQB situation, or at least be a liability.

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                    • #11
                      StrikeIndustries
                      Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 159

                      Originally posted by GiddyHitch
                      Seems like isosceles would break down in a CQB situation, or at least be a liability.
                      I haven't had this issue personally, but you could always transition to have the pistol slightly canted and pressed high into your upper chest for close quarters. That way your left hand is free to do whatever.

                      You can have your left hand on your pistol for more retention if you wanted to also.
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                      • #12
                        9mmepiphany
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 8075

                        Originally posted by GiddyHitch
                        Seems like isosceles would break down in a CQB situation, or at least be a liability.
                        I'm not sure why?

                        As distance closed, you just pull back into Count 3 of the 4 count draw, or even back to Count 2 and shoot from retention as you bring your support hand to the side of your head to ward off the attacker
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