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  • GunnerMichael
    Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 255

    FMK 9C1 Gen 2 review, MHO

    My review on the FMK 9C1 Gen2

    I would like to begin with the statement that I do not have extensive fire arm experience, I do not own an extensive line of guns (although I am building my collection), I do not have any military or police back ground. I am an average guy who likes to shoot guns for fun and has shot and owned guns for over 10 years.


    A little about the 9C1 Gen 2;

    - Built in a 9mm with a high-carbon steel slide, 4 inch stainless steel barrel and a polymer frame (the frame comes in black, dark earth and pink for the ladies)

    - DAO or Fast Action Trigger (FAT 316), double strike capability

    - 14 or 10 round Magazine (only 10 for us Californians as you all well know)

    - Fixed 3 dot sight with 7 interchangeable sights

    - 5.09”H x 1.14”W x 6.85”L, 23.45oz

    - Drop free magazine, chamber load indicator, trigger safety

    - Rubberized back strap, snag free design, picatinny rail

    -Bill of rights engraved on some

    - Comes with 2 magazines, 7 interchangeable sights, G96 gun oil, lockable hard case and a manual (mine came with a book called Red state coalition, Vermont not to be excluded. Haven’t red it yet)

    - Made in California

    - Retails at $399 (usually sells for closer to $350)


    My first impression of the 9C1 was that it was sleek looking with a very nice finish and was very comfortable in my medium size hands. The back grip is a nice rubber and there is a curve on the top of the back grip below the slide so your hand doesn’t slip upwards and get hit by the slide, this also allows a space for someone with larger hands. The trigger guard has a clean curve that wraps smoothly front to back. Some 9C1s come with the bill of rights engraved on the slide, however, the one I bought does not, only “Proudly American” on the extractor, “Thank you; Armed Forces” on the frame and “Freedom/Liberty” on the slide end cap. It was light and the balance was a little top heavy, much to be expected of a polymer framed gun. The trigger pull felt long but the sight picture was better than I expected it would be from a 3 dot sight. It came apart easily and the inside looked about what you would expect. Mine was bone dry from the factory, that must be what the oil that it comes with is for. I was a little hesitant to buy it since I was looking for a .40 cal and was unsure about the stopping power of a 9mm, since I was looking for a HD gun. None the less I decided it was absolutely worth the money and decided to stop the hunt for the original gun I was looking for, the S&W SD40VE, since those seem to be rare in the Bay Area (could only find the SD9VE and liked the look of the 9C1 more). I figured If anything I could always buy another gun in a larger caliber later if I wanted. After doing some research I think the 9mm is a perfect home defense round. Some of the +P rounds run hotter than your typical .40 cal, Buffalo Bore at 460 lbs and 1400 f.p.s. at the muzzle should put a bad guy down, and I have seen ballistics from Hornady +P that rival the .45 cal. I think the issue with 9mm is lack of ballistic consistency.

    At the range I decided to run a hand-full of types and different brands of ammo through it to see what it liked. After feeding around 500 rounds through it, Hornady, reloaded purchased at the range, Winchester, Fiocchi, Federal, FMJ, JHP, JFN, TMJ, +P, and I can’t remember what else, I have not had one failure (multiple range days). The gun has fired flawlessly every time I pulled the trigger. The only ammo I have not tried that I have had trouble with in another gun, and have seen other have trouble with in video reviews of the 9C1, is Blazer (I intend on finding some to test). As far as reliability is concerned, 500 rounds without a failure seems reliable to me. If I put another 500 through it without failure I will stamp it good to save my life.

    My impression thus far;
    I would highly recommend the 9C1 to a first time shooter or someone looking to add an inexpensive 9mm to the collection. I think this is a great looking gun and rather enjoy shooting it. When I find a decent holster it will make a great CCW for me. The sight picture is good and my aim is getting better (I think the issue is me and not the gun). The size fits well in small, medium and large hands, although I think if you have huge hands it might fit to small (not sure since I'm not a giant).

    Reloading the mags is not impossible but I picked up an auto loader any. The drop free magazine serves it purpose at the range but would prefer to have the magazines just fall to the floor. Cleaning is a snap. 10 minutes and I can have the gun stripped, cleaned, oiled and put back together. I have noticed a good amount of metal flakes collect inside around the magazine and am not sure if that is typical or not.

    At first I was shooting low and to the left. The heavier bullets dropped a significant amount more than the lighter ones but I think that says more about the ammo than the gun, you can make your own opinion about that if you wish. I decided to change out the front sight to get my aim higher and it helped. I was still shooting to the left and decided to work on trigger pull instead of sight picture. After a few magazines I realized I was pinching my finger at the last second. I started pulling 50% on the trigger before I focused my aim, was making sure not to pinch and then follow through. I would not say the trigger is smooth but it is consistent in where it releases. Since then I have been grouping 2 inches at 10 yards 1.5" to the right, guess I need to do a little more work.

    There are a few things I don't like about this gun but intend to upgrade and do some modifications. I have heard other reviews that they are easy to do. First I am going to do some work to the trigger. At 8.4 lbs it’s a hefty pull and think it is distracting, alternatively it is good for practice. I am not sure if I am going to go with the FAT 316 upgrade or have a local gunsmith do a custom job. I also intend on getting rid of the drop free mag, it's nice at the range but in a jam it could cause an issue. I read a review that the person did the modification and it was extremely easy. The last thing I am going to do is change the color of either the front sight or the rear sights to make it easier to distinguish between the two. I really fel that the only hang up with this gun is the trigger so I recommend getting one with the FAT 316 (there was a recall on the first FAT so make sure you don't buy one with the old one).

    One thing I have heard is people comparing the 9C1 to a Glock. I'm not sure why you would, they are in completely different price ranges, you could buy two 9C1s for the price of a Glock. SO needless to say, Glocks are more commonly know, have more parts and accessories available, have better sights. What the 9C1 has going is styling and price (if you think a Glock is a good looking gun you must not have very high standards, they didn't make them to look pretty). As for reliability, mine has a spot free record but I have not had the gun long enough to say much about longevity.

    In summary; The FMK 9c1 is easy on the eyes, feels good in the hand, feeds without issue, the sights track well, it shoots straight (as far as I can tell) and is easy on the wallet. The only real downside is the trigger but with a little practice you get used to it and for a little more cash you can change that, unless you are in a state that it comes with the FAT standard. All in all this is a fantastic gun for the price. IMO You get more than what you pay for. Now if they could only make decent AR lower, lol.

    Keep in mind I am not a professional writer and just overlook any spelling or grammatical mistakes. I'm not trying to get an A+ on an exam, I'm just trying to inform everyone about a nice little gun I picked up.

    Thanks for reading.

    -Gunner
    Last edited by GunnerMichael; 04-29-2014, 6:22 AM.
    -Gunner
  • #2
    Icypu
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1051

    Did you change the trigger to the special trigger?

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    • #3
      afteractionreport
      CGSSA Leader
      • Jun 2013
      • 2851

      cool review, thanks seems like an interesting gun maybe down the line ill pick one up after i get what i really want for my collection...
      Kyle "Kenosha Kid" Rittenhouse did nothing wrong

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      • #4
        LBDamned
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2011
        • 19040

        I have the original BOR 9C1... ergonomics are great, the micro stamping BOR on the slide is awesome (IMO)... it's a novelty gun (for me)... some people poo poo the BOR on the slide - but it's why I bought the gun.

        The fact that FMK is in OC (I'm born & raised in So Cal, adolescent years in the LA/OC boarder and all adult years in OC) - made me not think twice about supporting them...

        I've had the 9C1 for a couple/few years... I dealt with the guys at FMK a couple times (quite a while back) and they were very accommodating - small shop, good vibe... when their lower receivers came out, I was kinda surprised (didn't realize they were doing AR stuff)...

        I do know they have always manufactured other "brands" products... sometimes people fail to realize top names don't make their own stuff (I won't list names, but they are well known) FWIW, the company that designs and imports VooDoo Tactical is the same way - So Cal local and is responsible for several other well known name brands... but I digress...

        I'd love to say I love NRA endorsed 9C1... I think the novelty of the BOR is worth keeping the gun. I've shot it at one range outing (50-100 rds) and it has hung in the safe every since. Ergonomics are great - long stiff trigger pull is not and I just can't honestly say I'd use it to defend my life. Maybe the GenII are defense worthy?
        "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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        • #5
          pc_load_letter
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2520

          My local gun store just got in four or five of them of all the various colors. They look to be pricing them fairly high compared to what I've seen online.....$485ish

          At $399, I'd pick one up but I have yet to see one at that price.

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          • #6
            LBDamned
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 19040

            Originally posted by pc_load_letter
            My local gun store just got in four or five of them of all the various colors. They look to be pricing them fairly high compared to what I've seen online.....$485ish

            At $399, I'd pick one up but I have yet to see one at that price.
            I think I paid 250 or 299 plus tax & DROS (for 1st gen)... at 399-485 I'd highly recommend the Shield (which I also have and easily trust my life with)... I'm not a Glock or XD guy, but I'm sure those are much better suited for SD in that price range...

            FMK may very well have created a new product with their GenII... but it would need to be significantly different/better to be considered anything other than a novelty gun.

            I'd love nothing more than their offering to be proven a reliable SD weapon... but as of my experience, shoot it a BUNCH before you consider it other than a fun gun.
            "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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            • #7
              GunnerMichael
              Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 255

              pc_load_letter - Suggested retail for the 9C1 Gen 2 is $399 (that's what I paid) and I have heard of them selling for closer to $300. If anyone is selling them above $400 they are ripping you off, IMO. I wouldn't say this gun is worth over $400, maybe with the FAT 316 (since that is a $59.99 upgrade). One of the things I liked most about this gun was the price. If it's your first or maybe even second gun this is a good buy...below $400.

              As for HD my first line is a Mossberg 500 12 gauge. The 9mm is my back up. After I change the trigger and put another 500+ rounds without flaw then I might consider the 9C1 for CCW. But I would probably pick up a Mag pug before I do that.

              LBDamned - I agree the BOR is a cool feature, I would have bought one with but they didn't have any in stock.
              Last edited by GunnerMichael; 04-09-2014, 11:35 AM.
              -Gunner

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              • #8
                Staticsouls
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 974

                thanks for the review. I have wanted one of these for over a year, and just maybe I can afford one this year. Mine must have the BOR on the slide though hahaha

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                • #9
                  pc_load_letter
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2520

                  @Gunner,

                  No real intention of picking one up retail. I'm good with my 9's I have now. But yeah, my local shop is a range\gun store and the firearms are always higher than most places in town.

                  PCLL

                  Originally posted by GunnerMichael
                  pc_load_letter - Suggested retail for the 9C1 Gen 2 is $399 (that's what I paid) and I have heard of them selling for closer to $300. If anyone is selling them above $400 they are ripping you off, IMO. I wouldn't say this gun is worth over $400, maybe with the FAT 316 (since that is a $59.99 upgrade). One of the things I liked most about this gun was the price. If it's your first or maybe even second gun this is a good buy...below $400.

                  As for HD my first line is a Mossberg 500 12 gauge. The 9mm is my back up. After I change the trigger and put another 500+ rounds without flaw then I might consider the 9C1 for CCW. But I would probably pick up a Mag pug before I do that.

                  LBDamned - I agree the BOR is a cool feature, I would have bought one with but they didn't have any in stock.

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                  • #10
                    GunnerMichael
                    Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 255

                    Originally posted by pc_load_letter
                    @Gunner,

                    No real intention of picking one up retail. I'm good with my 9's I have now. But yeah, my local shop is a range\gun store and the firearms are always higher than most places in town.

                    PCLL
                    I've seen some sell at online auction for $200. Check the usual auction sights and you might get lucky. At that price it's a steal.
                    -Gunner

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                    • #11
                      Jimmybacon43
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 2000

                      Cool review man. I was thinking about this gun the other day, sounds like it works pretty well.

                      Any pics?
                      Originally posted by RookieShooter
                      One of the theory is that the hormones they put in the milk. That is why there are more obesity and homosexual today then back in the 60's.

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                      • #12
                        catmman
                        CGSSA Coordinator
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 455

                        Great company and I believe still the only pistol manufacturer in California. The company is also a great supporter of the Friends of the NRA program plus they are really nice people! Invest in something local!
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                        • #13
                          GunnerMichael
                          Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 255

                          Originally posted by Jimmybacon43
                          Cool review man. I was thinking about this gun the other day, sounds like it works pretty well.

                          Any pics?
                          Doh! should have started with these. Sorry about the oil in some of the pics, I didn't notice it until the picture were taken and the gun was put away, I apologize since I am still working on my photography skills. I have a long way to go. I included one from an online source.
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                          -Gunner

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                          • #14
                            Jimmybacon43
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 2000

                            That's cool that it comes with a bunch of different sights. Are they just for sight adjustment, or are they all different style sights?

                            It looks like it has some recessions in the sides of the grips, do you notice this or is it not a big deal? FMK is on the list of possible first handguns.
                            Originally posted by RookieShooter
                            One of the theory is that the hormones they put in the milk. That is why there are more obesity and homosexual today then back in the 60's.

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                            • #15
                              GunnerMichael
                              Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 255

                              Multiple sights for sight adjustment and I honestly did not notice the recessions until you mentioned them. I've had lots of guns in my hands (Glock, Cobra, Colt, S&W, etc) and the only one that felt better in my hands was the Ruger LC9. I decided to go with the 9C1 because of the 4 inch barrel, magazine capacity, 9C1 was $80 less expensive, and the whole made in California thing. And even though the LC9 fit my hand better over all, my pinky kept trying to slip off.

                              FMK recently came out with a special limited edition 9C1 called "The Bull Dog" that has an army green frame and slide with a shield on the grip that honors the Marine Corp. It looks pretty sweet. Check out the website if you want a look.
                              -Gunner

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