Girl Gun

[etherwalker]

I have a Glock G19 and a Ruger SR22. My daughter (15) has been doing very well with the SR22, but the G19 is still too much recoil for her. I'd like to find a handgun with more power than a .22 but less kick than the G19 for her to work with. Ideally this would be a firearm that I could give her for HD (and maybe even carry) when she is of age.

[SLO1911Fan]

In .380 there's the Beretta 84/85, the Browning BDA, the Sig 232, Bersa Firestorm, and probably some others I'm forgetting.

In 9mm I would try the M&P fullsize, the CZ 75b fullsize and the compact version, the Beretta 92, or a Springfield 1911.

[DT556]

Get an all steel 9mm full size. The Browning Hi-Power would be a good option.

[Snoopy47]

Here's my lady with her Springfield 1911 (in 45ACP).

One handed even, and at 50 yards.

[etherwalker]

Well dang. If you all are going to force me to buy a 1911 for the sake of the women and children, who am I to argue?

[bigred1]

$.02

Your daughter should be able to handle that 19. A smaller framed lighter slides weapon in a smaller caliber will not help your/her situation. You need to force fundamentals:
Proper grip with as high on the pistol as possible
Isosceles stance: knees bent, weight forward, elbows out.
Practice trigger control: a good technique is to pull the trigger all the way to the rear and hold it there. This will help eliminate slapping/jerking and easy into the next step of trigger reset.
Lastly, bring the pistol to a low ready between shots then work up to between strings. This will keep arm/shoulder fatigue to a minimum.

If you said the only thing you had for her to shoot was a high pressure round (.40, 10mm etc) or a magnum cartridge. Then yeah I would advocate for a new weapon. But your talking about a service length 9mm, the only way to get easier than that will be to jump to a full size 9mm. Try light 9mm 95gn-115gn.

good luck and good shooting

[axhoaxho]

What about the Glock 34?

The G34 is one of the most popular pistols for competition, and I have seen quite some petite-size ladies used it in the competitions. It is with the same 9x19 caliber as your G19.... yet with longer sight radius, more slide mass, lighter trigger pull. With the right ammos, all together it should be quite controllable for your 15 years old daughter.

And if your daughter gets proficient with the G34, she could easily adapt to your G19 in the future. She could also use the G34 magazines in the G19.

Just a thought,

[Arkangel]

It could also be that your daughter simply doesn't like how the Glock feels in her hands.

With enough time and training one can overcome most all firearm related shortcomings... but why force it if it's not necessary?

Have your daughter shoot some other firearms and find what works for her. My wife loved my P30LS so much, she had to have her own. She shoots her P30L (in .40s&w) better than she does her other guns chambered in 9mm. Since the P30L fits her hand better, she has a greater ability to effectively manipulate her trigger pull.

[nn3453]

A smaller framed lighter slides weapon in a smaller caliber will not help your/her situation. You need to force fundamentals:
Proper grip with as high on the pistol as possible
Isosceles stance: knees bent, weight forward, elbows out.
Practice trigger control: a good technique is to pull the trigger all the way to the rear and hold it there. This will help eliminate slapping/jerking and easy into the next step of trigger reset.
Lastly, bring the pistol to a low ready between shots then work up to between strings. This will keep arm/shoulder fatigue to a minimum.

If you said the only thing you had for her to shoot was a high pressure round (.40, 10mm etc) or a magnum cartridge. Then yeah I would advocate for a new weapon. But your talking about a service length 9mm, the only way to get easier than that will be to jump to a full size 9mm. Try light 9mm 95gn-115gn.

good luck and good shooting

I'll second most of that.

380s are actually harder to shoot for most people than 9mms because almost all guns that shoot 380 are meant to be concealed, so they are light and have small frames = more felt recoil.

But I'll say that a 147gr loaded on the light side is a less "snappy" than 115gr. Slow, heavy projectiles usually lend to easier felt recoil than light fast ones.

[tbc]

1911 in 9mm is a soft shooter.


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[j-shot]

Get her one of these



and try not to say "girl gun" in front of your daughter.

Have fun with your purchase!

[CSACANNONEER]

It's probably more about how the gun fits her hands than the cartridge. Years ago, I taught a little 14 year old girl how to shoot. Soon she was shooting a .44mag better than I could. I suggest taking her to a Women On Target class or getting her a certified firearms instructor to work with her a little bit. Then, take her to a shop or two and let her hold and feel some different guns so that she can make her own decision based on how they fit her. If she has small hands, maybe a double stacked gun isn't right for her.

[003]

As mentioned above, going to a smaller gun is not the answer. Recoil is a factor of weight vs energy. Give serious consideration to a steel frame 9mm using standard 9mm FMJ. While I do like my Glock 34, it is not that much heavier than a 19, and therefore does not absorb much more energy/recoil than a 19.

One aspect of recoil management is being sure that the shooter uses quality and effective hearing protection. Are you sure it is the recoil, or is it possible the noise has something to do with her lack progress in shooting a 9mm. Have her double up on hearing proteciton, plugs and muffs.

[NYT]

the glocks grip is probably the culprit, not the recoil. i would look into a cz because of the smaller grip and maybe an fn.

if youre strict with making her get used to the glock, im sure she could get used to it but she might not take a liking to it as fast as she would had the weapon fit her better.

[A-J]

I have to agree that smaller caliber does not solve the problem. My wife shot all of my 9mm handguns and ended up deciding on a 1911. The 1911 actually does kick less than most of my 9s, simply because it's heavier.