Is my gun Microstamping?

[plan-b]

Sorry what I meant to communicate was that the 2 people who talked to me thought that all new handguns that you currently buy have microstamping, so you "can't buy one without it". Ones words were "it's too bad you sold your old handgun, all the new ones have that stupid microstamping stuff", as if the technology was actually being currently implemented.

I'm well aware of the roster processes.

Umm, yeah. I still don't think that's the case but I see that it probably depends on how the people you talked to are defining new. If they mean new in the sense that "this 3rd gen Glock 19 is brand new in the box," nothing's changed. It can still be sold without microstamping because the configuration hasn't changed from Glock for what they submitted to roster testing. That's the point I was getting at.

[JMP]

CZ, not yet. However, Glocks bought in the last five years have microstamping; it's just nobody knows about it yet.

[nn3453]

Think bigger picture: gun manufactures WON'T put microstamping capabilities on guns (regardless of whether the tech exists or not) therefore the law will effectively outlaw new production handguns for sale in California.

This. Microstamping is effectively a ban on new semi auto handguns. Can't get new ones on the roster. The people who introduced the bill aren't idiots and know that it is not viable. This is intentional and not incidental.

[smith and wesson]

Umm, yeah. I still don't think that's the case but I see that it probably depends on how the people you talked to are defining new. If they mean new in the sense that "this 3rd gen Glock 19 is brand new in the box," nothing's changed. It can still be sold without microstamping because the configuration hasn't changed from Glock for what they submitted to roster testing. That's the point I was getting at.

I don't understand the point your trying to make.

[smith and wesson]

Umm, yeah. I still don't think that's the case but I see that it probably depends on how the people you talked to are defining new. If they mean new in the sense that "this 3rd gen Glock 19 is brand new in the box," nothing's changed. It can still be sold without microstamping because the configuration hasn't changed from Glock for what they submitted to roster testing. That's the point I was getting at.

I don't understand the point your trying to make. From what they told me they thought all guns being sold we're implementing microstamping, I do t understand why you keep trying to counter my point. Again the two people that talked to me thought all guns had microstamping, ALL new guns, they didn't understand that the technology doesn't exist. Just like the op didn't know if his gun was microstamping or not. You keep trying to make some point about guns that are already on the roster that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

[smith and wesson]

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As far as anyone is aware, no guns have the microstamping technology.

// Librarian

[jeff r]

CZ, not yet. However, Glocks bought in the last five years have microstamping; it's just nobody knows about it yet.

Got a source for that?

[tmncali]

Got a source for that?

Maybe a joke?

[Sunday]

Micro stamped?

[salsa56]

So is it safe to assume that any gun manufacturer that wishes to update the manufacture of its handguns will, like S&W and Ruger are apparently doing with their's, either need to micro stamp or not sell the upgraded versions in CA?

[Librarian]

So is it safe to assume that any gun manufacturer that wishes to update the manufacture of its handguns will, like S&W and Ruger are apparently doing with their's, either need to micro stamp or not sell the upgraded versions in CA?

Unless the law goes away first, yes.

See also the sticky in this forum, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=884786

[hossb7]

So is it safe to assume that any gun manufacturer that wishes to update the manufacture of its handguns will, like S&W and Ruger are apparently doing with their's, either need to micro stamp or not sell the upgraded versions in CA?

Yes, that's what's happening.

Which is why their pistols are not being renewed on the list. They're making enough changes that they're assigning new SKU numbers and the DOJ Roster would need a new gun to be submitted. Because of the new law, all new guns being submitted MUST have microstamping.

Therefore no new handguns are being submitted for testing.

[Murmur]

I think the point is "it can be done" but it is not viable and it won't last more that ~ 1 to 10 shots then it will not show up anymore (at lest it will not be readable) it will add $$ to the cost of a gun thus make it harder for people to exercise there rights.

it really is just a feel good law for those that think if you outlaw enough things then we will all be safe.

But wait, they told the governor it would only add about $0.50 to the cost of a gun so he would sign the bill. I can't believe they weren't truthful. Off topic, but I have a bridge to sell you.

Edit: I agree with everything you said BTW.

[Murmur]

Unless the law goes away first, yes.

See also the sticky in this forum, http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=884786

Librarian - if micro stamping goes away say end of next year, can the manufacturers like S&W and Ruger get their previously rostered guns back on the roster at that point? Or will too much time have elapsed and they will have to resubmit for safety testing?

[Librarian]

Librarian - if micro stamping goes away say end of next year, can the manufacturers like S&W and Ruger get their previously rostered guns back on the roster at that point? Or will too much time have elapsed and they will have to resubmit for safety testing?

I don't see microstamping going away unless the whole Roster goes away.