Zastava M92 PAP Question..

[Indigo762]

This is my first official thread here, so forgive me if I am posting in the wrong section..

After recently picking up a WASR10 (still in jail until Sunday), I decided on Monday to pick up a Serbian Krinkov style AK Pistol from RifleGear in Fountain Valley. When I get my Krink out of the "clink" on Sunday, I am planning on adding a single point sling adapter and voodoo tactical bungee single point sling. I know SBR isn't happening for me in CA.. and due to the impracticality/difficult shoot-ability of a krink, I am settling for a sling to help brace the gun a bit while shooting. I have seen wrist braces, but not sure of the legality of them in CA since it could double as a stock and be considered a SBR. So that is my first question.

My second question is can I add a muzzle break (without SBRing) if I Dremel off the weld that holds the thread protector?

[JWHuey]

Muzzle brake is GTG. Threaded muzzle pistol restriction does not apply since it has a fixed mag outside the grip.
Make sure to get the detent when adding your brake http://ak-builder.com/index.php?disp...oduct_id=30430

Don't know that I would want to be the test case for the "stabilizing brace" lol

[Indigo762]

GTG? Good to go?

[JWHuey]

Yes. Sorry.Lol

[phase1]

ATF says brace is ok, ca hasn't said it's not ok, so there is an argument for the brace

[Mot Mi]

I dont know but I can shoot my m92 fairly accurate as the recoil can be controlled and you can put the firearm close for aim. The recoil wont snap backwards only upwards.

Although, the sling would help alot.

[ScottsBad]

The M92 is very easy to shoot and is good for 6" circle hand held at 25 yards. The stock sights are not so hot, I actually filed the width of the rear sight to make it easier to see the front sight. And ultimately put a red dot on it.

I personally like two point slings and find bungee type slings to be less than useful because the pistols tend to swing around and hit you in the body (and maybe the balls) if you need both hands free.

The Manticore flash hider fits the pistol very well and keeps the length under control.

I also put the MI rail on the front, but it does add some weight and makes the pistol less handy.

Otherwise it is a very nice piece and I shoot mine a lot because it is so much fun. If you can find a place where you can shoot at night or in low light you will get a kick out of the huge fireball it makes.

Finally, if you can find a good green laser for the M92 it makes the perfect addition and you can then shoot from chest height by just putting the laser on target. It adds to the fun factor.

[Quiet]

ATF says brace is ok, ca hasn't said it's not ok, so there is an argument for the brace

Since you have to add an extension onto the handgun to install the brace, there is the argument that you are "redesigning it so that it can be fired from the shoulder" (which would make it a SBR).

[bajadan]

Since you have to add an extension onto the handgun to install the brace, there is the argument that you are "redesigning it so that it can be fired from the shoulder" (which would make it a SBR).

good point

[Indigo762]

The M92 is very easy to shoot and is good for 6" circle hand held at 25 yards. The stock sights are not so hot, I actually filed the width of the rear sight to make it easier to see the front sight. And ultimately put a red dot on it.

I personally like two point slings and find bungee type slings to be less than useful because the pistols tend to swing around and hit you in the body (and maybe the balls) if you need both hands free.

The Manticore flash hider fits the pistol very well and keeps the length under control.

I also put the MI rail on the front, but it does add some weight and makes the pistol less handy.

Otherwise it is a very nice piece and I shoot mine a lot because it is so much fun. If you can find a place where you can shoot at night or in low light you will get a kick out of the huge fireball it makes.

Finally, if you can find a good green laser for the M92 it makes the perfect addition and you can then shoot from chest height by just putting the laser on target. It adds to the fun factor.

Thanks for the info! I've been getting mixed reviews so when she's out of jail, I'll have to play around with her at the range and see what she feels like. The Manticore you mentioned looks nice, do I need to spot weld it in place since the barrel is threaded? (Such a noob question I'm sorry )

As far as the slings, and as a civilian, I haven't done too many tactical type exercises, and although I too prefer two point slings on my rifles, I was thinking of the single point because it seems like it would work nicely with the krink around my right shoulder when firing. as far as the bungee, I was thinking it may cause conflicting motion with the recoil.. who knows.

Since you have to add an extension onto the handgun to install the brace, there is the argument that you are "redesigning it so that it can be fired from the shoulder" (which would make it a SBR).

Yeah that is what I was worried about. I don't really like the look of it anyway, so better safe than sorry, such a dumb law, but I won't get into politics here.

[zfields]

Not to mention, they are dumb.


Throw a sling plate on it, and a non bungee sling. Extended it out and "push" against the sling, surprisingly stable.

[axhoaxho]

I have a M92 PAP. It is a fun range toy and everyone wants to try it. Actually it is not that hard to shoot well 'if' setup right. No problem hitting a six inches plate consistently from 25 yards.

My setup is...

Echo Nine Three sling mount, Magpul MS-3 single-point sling, and a Midwest Industries quad rail.

Then I add a Magpul XTM hand stop (mounted six o'clock right behind the muzzle.) That way I won't accidently slip my hand in front of the muzzle, and the hand stop helps me using the 'push' to stabilize the recoil in conjunction with the single point sling.

Sorry for my poor wordings, hope they make sense.

[redcliff]

Muzzle brake is GTG. Threaded muzzle pistol restriction does not apply since it has a fixed mag outside the grip.Make sure to get the detent when adding your brake http://ak-builder.com/index.php?disp...oduct_id=30430

Don't know that I would want to be the test case for the "stabilizing brace" lol

To be more correct, the threaded muzzle restriction does not apply because it has a fixed magazine (bb).

[EMR]

Throw a sling plate on it, and a non bungee sling. Extended it out and "push" against the sling, surprisingly stable.

^ This. Works surprisingly well!

[ScottsBad]

Thanks for the info! I've been getting mixed reviews so when she's out of jail, I'll have to play around with her at the range and see what she feels like. The Manticore you mentioned looks nice, do I need to spot weld it in place since the barrel is threaded? (Such a noob question I'm sorry )

As far as the slings, and as a civilian, I haven't done too many tactical type exercises, and although I too prefer two point slings on my rifles, I was thinking of the single point because it seems like it would work nicely with the krink around my right shoulder when firing. as far as the bungee, I was thinking it may cause conflicting motion with the recoil.. who knows.

Sorry I didn't respond earlier, if you are still checking this thread...the Muzzle device does not need to be permanently attached, but do buy the muzzle detent suggested in the post above.

A two point sling will be more stable. Over your shoulder behind your back and under your weak side arm (left arm if you are right handed). Sling points at the front and rear of the pistol. There are a number of rear sling point options if you search around.