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  • agent88
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1772

    Competition pistols

    Would a 9mm 1911 be a poor choice for someone new to competition shooting idpa uspsa nra?

    Does it put you in a tougher class than if you started out with a G34?
  • #2
    peter209
    Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 223

    Someone will probably come and correct me but I believe it is easier to go with a hammerless gun like a glock, m&p, etc

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    • #3
      SuperSet
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2007
      • 9048

      Paging Highlander51 for USPSA/IDPA stuff.

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      • #4
        CaffeinFeign
        Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 323

        I just started IDPA a few months ago and I use a 1911 45 acp and I don't have any problems.
        1 John 4:15 "Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God."

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        • #5
          sjm9877
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 1182

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          Last edited by sjm9877; 02-25-2014, 9:45 PM.

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          • #6
            Inkman
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 1116

            Originally posted by agent88
            Would a 9mm 1911 be a poor choice for someone new to competition shooting idpa uspsa nra?

            Does it put you in a tougher class than if you started out with a G34?
            Don't buy a gun to start shooting competition. Start shooting USPSA/IDPA with what you have and see if you like it enough to stick with the sport.

            2cents.

            Al
            Various 1911s.
            Some revolvers.
            Some rifles.
            Back to owning some of those "polymer" guns.

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            They hatin'

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            • #7
              ElDub1950
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2012
              • 5688

              Originally posted by Inkman
              Don't buy a gun to start shooting competition. Start shooting USPSA/IDPA with what you have and see if you like it enough to stick with the sport.

              2cents.

              Al
              ^^ That makes the most sense.

              And check the rules .. starting on page 31 to see the equipment classifications and especially what mods are allowed and prohibited. It doesn't take much to get moved from Stock to Enhanced Service Pistol.

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              • #8
                Lead Waster
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2010
                • 16650

                In USPSA, since a 1911 is SAO, you'll have to shoot in Single Stack, Limited, Limited 10, or Open division. Unless you are really good, you will be at a disadvantage since you are shooting 9mm which scores less on non-A-Zone hits than a .40 or .45 loaded to "major power factor". I started USPSA with a CZ075 SAO so I shot in L-10. I've since switched to a Glock 17 for production. I'm actually picking up a G34 today.

                Bottom line is ... sure, you can shoot a 9mm 1911 in USPSA because ... It's just for fun! If you want to score high, etc, then you have to shoot more accurately (hit all A's) or faster.

                It's not optimal for a new shooter in USPSA though, it's easier to shoot with a Glock because the rules and RO commands and time pressure is a lot to keep in your head. Needing to worry about manual safety, malfunctions, etc, etc is more to think about.

                So...IMHO, yes, you can shoot it. You can basically shoot anything in USPSA as there is a division to cover most types of guns, but with a 9mm 1911, you'll be shooting in a division that you might be at a disadvantage at if you're a newbie. Shoot for fun and bring it, but also remember ... DON'T GET DISCOURAGED with a low score because the division you will shoot in is usually filled with more experienced shooters.

                Newbies will shoot in production because it's way more forgiving of whatever gun your bring and all scoring is the same regardless of caliber BUT a single action gun is not allowed in production division.

                If your 9mm 1911 is not single stack, then you can't shoot in SS division of course.
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                • #9
                  kmca
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2371

                  Originally posted by agent88
                  Would a 9mm 1911 be a poor choice for someone new to competition shooting idpa uspsa nra?

                  Does it put you in a tougher class than if you started out with a G34?
                  They're all tough, if you expect to win
                  If you're limited to 10 round magazines, the 34 would be a good start (as would almost any pistol on the list).

                  If you want to go Single Stack division, I'd say go with a 45.

                  If you're not 10 round magazine restricted, you might want to consider Limited Division, fewer reloads to worry about.

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                  • #10
                    agent88
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1772

                    Originally posted by Lead Waster


                    Newbies will shoot in production because it's way more forgiving of whatever gun your bring and all scoring is the same regardless of caliber BUT a single action gun is not allowed in production division.

                    .

                    Thanks for your reply that is what I was looking for would I be at a disadvatage with one gun over the other.

                    Why are glocks (SAO) allowed in production class ?


                    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk

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                    • #11
                      Leethe4th
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 429

                      Originally posted by agent88
                      Thanks for your reply that is what I was looking for would I be at a disadvatage with one gun over the other.

                      Why are glocks (SAO) allowed in production class ?


                      Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
                      Don't know about competition rules and stuff, but SAO means safe action only for a Glock, not single action only,

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                      • #12
                        kmca
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2371

                        You can shoot almost anything in USPSA. Why don't you say what guns you have and we'll tell you the appropriate division?

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                        • #13
                          twolane
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 963

                          Originally posted by Inkman
                          Don't buy a gun to start shooting competition. Start shooting USPSA/IDPA with what you have and see if you like it enough to stick with the sport.

                          2cents.

                          Al
                          Al knows his stuff. Whenever anyone starts they don't have the best gear or gun- but all that stuff gets real pricey, real quick.

                          Show up and run what you brung. Decide if it's for you, and go from there.

                          True story-
                          A few months back a new guy was in my squad. He had done the safety class the day before and this was his first match. I DQ'd him for breaking the 180 as he was running from one shooting area up range to the next. The kid flipped and left all in a huff because "it's stupid to have to go up range. You should only be going down range." Welp, that's what makes it hard. He has never been back. Clearly not for him.

                          Also- take a look around in the Action and Competition section. Lots of good info there.

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                          • #14
                            nikki#2
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 2164

                            Originally posted by kmca

                            You can shoot almost anything in USPSA. Why don't you say what guns you have and we'll tell you the appropriate division?
                            A 9mm 1911 in IDPA is coolness.

                            A 9mm 1911 in USPSA will get scored at minor power factor, putting you at a major disadvantage if you have any desire to be competitive.

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                            • #15
                              agent88
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1772

                              In considering my next purchase I wanted to know what the difference would be should I enter a competition with them.
                              It's not the only or main reason for the purchase.

                              I'm considering a g34 or a 9mm 1911

                              I have a 1911 45acp , po1, g19

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