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  • missiontrails
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 7859

    Isn't it amazing....

    Isn't it amazing how..

    THIS:


    TOTAL COST: $941

    Costs more than:

    THIS:


    TOTAL COST: $860

    Breakdown the handgun and just look at the parts, then do the same to a rifle........ just seems like there would be substantially more "cost" with the rifle.
  • #2
    The Gleam
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 13196

    Must be that BIG "custom" barrel.
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    Originally posted by Librarian
    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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    • #3
      missiontrails
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2008
      • 7859

      Originally posted by The Gleam
      Must be that BIG "custom" barrel.
      Yes, i'm looking for a railed handguard and a VG..

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      • #4
        jonc
        Calguns Addict
        • Aug 2009
        • 6404

        $941 not a bad price !

        What store if I may ask ?

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        • #5
          tonyxcom
          Calguns Addict
          • Aug 2011
          • 6397

          Well you are comparing one of the highest end pistols to a very basic AR. Why don't you compare that same AR to one of HK's AR's and you will find the common denominator.

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          • #6
            e90bmw
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2013
            • 1268

            Originally posted by missiontrails
            Breakdown the handgun and just look at the parts, then do the same to a rifle........ just seems like there would be substantially more "cost" with the rifle.
            Actually not.
            In an AR you have competition in the manufacture of parts.
            Since the blueprints are readily available almost anyone can make AR parts that run the gamut of quality and durability.

            I'm building an AR with quality parts and my upper costs as much as the AR you show.

            YMMV, but you get what you pay for. Never more and sometimes less.

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            • #7
              missiontrails
              Calguns Addict
              • Nov 2008
              • 7859

              Originally posted by jonc
              $941 not a bad price !

              What store if I may ask ?
              That was a specail at Grab a Gun that lasted for about a day... it was a little over $800 back in December. The SSE is just happening now, because the show was waiting for a replacement threaded barrel.... their original was broken at the threads.....

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              • #8
                missiontrails
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2008
                • 7859

                Originally posted by e90bmw
                Actually not.
                In an AR you have competition in the manufacture of parts.
                Since the blueprints are readily available almost anyone can make AR parts that run the gamut of quality and durability.

                I'm building an AR with quality parts and my upper costs as much as the AR you show.

                YMMV, but you get what you pay for. Never more and sometimes less.
                Ya, this is just a Spikes pencil barrel 14.5 upper... my last uppers were about $1200 by the time I was done with them. You're right about the mass produced parts though for the AR's... I think my brain is just looking at the amount of materials involved. A handgun barrel vs. an AR barrel etc....

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                • #9
                  tonyxcom
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 6397

                  Originally posted by missiontrails
                  I think my brain is just looking at the amount of materials involved. A handgun barrel vs. an AR barrel etc....
                  I think the other difference is the simplicity/complexity of the finish machining and the tolerances that need to be held for a reliably functioning weapon.

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                  • #10
                    missiontrails
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7859

                    Originally posted by tonyxcom
                    I think the other difference is the simplicity/complexity of the finish machining and the tolerances that need to be held for a reliably functioning weapon.
                    I would agree that if a HK45 as an example was "clonable" by any brand, and they were made to the same specs... they would probably be $200-$300 less.... like AR's...

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                    • #11
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30242

                      You're forgetting to factor in the H&K pricing difference.
                      Anything made by H&K automatically costs more money, because of the H&K civilian market motto "you suck and we hate you".



                      FYI.
                      The MSRP on the H&K HK-45 is $1035.
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                      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                      • #12
                        Loubot10
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 3078

                        You need to compare to an HK-MR556M1 (civilian HK416)which sells for over $3,000.00

                        Last edited by Loubot10; 02-18-2014, 11:16 AM. Reason: Added pic
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                        They want to be rulers. Well I don't effing want to be ruled, I want to be represented.

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                        • #13
                          tbc
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 5955

                          Yeah. $941 for a P30 is a great price. I just paid $1125 for the P30L last month. It's my 7th HK pistol and I want more.


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                          • #14
                            missiontrails
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7859

                            Originally posted by tbc
                            Yeah. $941 for a P30 is a great price. I just paid $1125 for the P30L last month. It's my 7th HK pistol and I want more.


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                            It's a 45

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                            • #15
                              tbc
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 5955

                              Originally posted by missiontrails
                              It's a 45

                              Lol. Left out the small detail. HK45 for $941 is a steal.


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