Buying a a pistol as frame only?

[fourtraxmc]

Just as stated in the title. Guys building STI race guns are you buying and drosing the frame only?

[Librarian]

They would need to buy 80% and machine the frame, or be exempt from the Roster.

Frames are the serialized parts - they're the 'gun'. Unless the buyer is exempt from the Roster, a gun must run through SSE or the transfer must be exempt (PPT, intrafamilial), or the gun must be on the Roster.

There are no 'just frames' on the Roster.

[Bastard]

I am sure that there are guy out there that can/will do it, but it becomes a roster issue (it is CA after all) there is something in the CA roster that states no bare receivers (that is assuming that I am remember correctly).

I know that I was looking for a caspian frame awhile back & was disappointed to say the least


edit;
^^^ what he said

[Cyc Wid It]

You can't really PPT frames either: safe handling demonstration.

[fourtraxmc]

I was talking to a local ffl and they said the paperwork gives you three choices. Roster gun, SSE or bare frame.

[krwada]

I was talking to a local ffl and they said the paperwork gives you three choices. Roster gun, SSE or bare frame.

Really????

I would very much like to see a post of the paperwork here at Calguns! If these are indeed the three choices ... Then ... I want a frame!!!

[nikki#2]

Decided I better pick up a couple before moving here.

[mr2ndamendment]

I work at a major gun shop/gun range in Southern California, maybe I can help. With that said, nothing should be taken as proper legal advice, just thoughts and opinions.

The DROS menu has no option for the selling of frames as a dealer sale, but if your buddy wanted to PPT you a frame he could as the DROS menu has that option for a PPT (looking at it now). Somebody brought up the safe handling demonstration, which is no problem at all because the statute allows for the usage of a "like-model" firearm if the actual firearm cannot be used. We do this for when people PPT frames to each other or when we have a collectors edition gun that has never been cycled/turned.

[krwada]

I work at a major gun shop/gun range in Southern California, maybe I can help. With that said, nothing should be taken as proper legal advice, just thoughts and opinions.

The DROS menu has no option for the selling of frames as a dealer sale, but if your buddy wanted to PPT you a frame he could as the DROS menu has that option for a PPT (looking at it now). Somebody brought up the safe handling demonstration, which is no problem at all because the statute allows for the usage of a "like-model" firearm if the actual firearm cannot be used. We do this for when people PPT frames to each other or when we have a collectors edition gun that has never been cycled/turned.

I already know that I can PPT a frame from another Californian. Can I do an FFL transfer of a frame?

I thought doing so violated the so-called SAFE handgun act!

[fourtraxmc]

I have some pics taken of the doj website that show exempt handgun sale as an option. I Will post when I get to a computer

[fourtraxmc]

Take a look. Sorry I forgot to rotate them. If I'm barking up the wrong tree delete this thread.

[Cyc Wid It]

Last I read, you were only supposed to use the exact same make and model for the safe handling demonstration.

[Matt P]

Being an individual who certifies HSC Instructors, you can use a similar functioning firearm.
There is no requirement it has to be the actual transferring firearm. A Glock could be substituted for a Smith M&P. A Ruger LCR for a Smith 642.

[gigglemonkee]

a lot of times they are mated to a slide a barrel and assembled such as a custom gun then sse

[Pistolgrip Pump]

I ppt'd a frame and they didn't give me a safe handling test, but I did have to buy a lock