C and R Handguns

[rocking40firearms]

I am a new FFL/CL dealer. I have a client who collects C and R 1911 handguns. Is he limited to 1 a month as with modern handguns? I thought I read a paragraph somewhere in this pile of DOJ stuff that C and R eligible guns were exempt.

[Gottmituns]

If he has the COE (Certificate of Exemption) that wait time (1 in 30 days) does not apply to him.
Only the 10 day wait time (DROS) per handgun applies.

[pklin1297]

I currently hold a 03 FFL (C&R license) and a COE (Certificate of Eligibility). I am exempt from the one handgun (modern or C&R) every 30 days, and if purchasing a C&R handgun, I am exempt from the 10-day waiting period. If your client has a 03 FFL but not a COE, the 1 handgun per 30 days applies. DROS still apply to all cases.

[Gottmituns]

I currently hold a 03 FFL (C&R license) and a COE (Certificate of Eligibility). I am exempt from the one handgun (modern or C&R) every 30 days, and if purchasing a C&R handgun, I am exempt from the 10-day waiting period. If your client has a 03 FFL but not a COE, the 1 handgun per 30 days applies. DROS still apply to all cases.

The 10 days (DROS) still applies to him for non C&R handguns, regardless if he has both FFL03 & COE.

[GunDog]

What about the California 03 FFL holder who acquires one or more C&R firearms while out of state? Don't believe waiting periods, DROS, or number of C&R firearms acquired in a 30 day period apply in this scenario. Think the only requirement is that this form be filed.....

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/curioapp.pdf?

[pklin1297]

The 10 days (DROS) still applies to him for non C&R handguns, regardless if he has both FFL03 & COE.

Agree, that's why I said DROS still apply to all cases. I should've clarified more in that when I said "DROS", I meant only the registration part, since if he has both 03+COE when purchasing a C&R handgun, he does not have to wait the 10 days that is also part of the normal DROS/background check process.

[pklin1297]

A person with a valid C&R Type 03-FFL and valid COE are exempt from the 10 day waiting period when acquiring C&R firearms from a CA FFL dealer. [PC 26970(a)]
This exemption only applies to C&R firearms [PC 26970(a)(1)] and does not apply to non-C&R firearms.

A person with a valid C&R Type 03-FFL and valid COE are exempt from the 1 in 30 day wait for handguns. [PC 27535(b)(9)]
This applies to all handguns, not just C&R handguns.

A person with a valid C&R Type 03-FFL and valid COE are exempt from the HSC requirement when acquiring a C&R handgun. [PC 31700(a)(6)]
This exemption only applies to C&R handguns.

A person with a valid C&R Type 03-FFL can legally acquire a C&R firearm outside of CA and bring it back to CA. [PC 27565]
In addition, within 5 days of returning to CA with a C&R handgun(s), the handgun(s) need to be reported to CA DOJ BOF [PC 27565(b)] and starting 01-01-2014, the reporting requirement applies to all C&R firearms. [PC 27565(a)(3)]

Starting on 01-01-2014, a person with a valid Type 03-FFL and valid COE are the only people exempt from needing to use a CA FFL dealer to transfer a C&R long gun. [PC 27966] This exemption only applies to C&R long guns [PC 27966(b)&(c)] and the person acquiring the C&R long gun must report the transfer to CA DOJ BOF within 30 days of acquiring the C&R long gun [PC 27966(f)].

C&R handguns are exempt from CA's "unsafe handgun" laws and are not required to be on the CA DOJ Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale. [PC 32000(a) & PC 32110(g)]