Glock Trigger Creep

[cc426]

I have a glock 17 gen4 that has a lot of trigger creep. I have the glock minus "-" connector installed which made the pull lighter but did not make it any more crisp.

Now, i always thought this was normal for a glock, but i had a chance to shoot my brother's bone stock glock 19. His trigger breaks super crisp, almost 1911 crisp (I know, blasphemy). It's heavy, and has some over travel, but the break is very clean.

http://youtu.be/Ps5zX__XBFk

Here's a video of my trigger, takeup, creep, break.

i'm more a 1911 guy and not glock expert so i was hoping someone could chime in. Is the creep normal and my brother lucked out? or is his normal, and mine screwed up?

Can i send it to glock and have them "fix" it under warranty if mine isn't normal? or should i just be looking at an aftermarket trigger?

Edit:
here's another video showing reset, pull, creep, break.

http://youtu.be/34fF7SqKpnc

[TMcGuff]

yours is normal its a glock not a 1911. Your brothers dosent sound normal. Want a fancy trigger pend the 150-250 for a drop in.

Or spend that money on ammo and training.

[Voo]

Wow.. That sounds horrible. Especially since you're a 1911 guy, the Glock trigger should be better

Call Glock and tell them your issue. Let us know how it turns out!

[mcat707]

Watched your video. Looks normal to me. Can't really say on the feel without dry firing it myself.

[Press Check]

I have a glock 17 gen4 that has a lot of trigger creep. I have the glock minus "-" connector installed which made the pull lighter but did not make it any more crisp.

Now, i always thought this was normal for a glock, but i had a chance to shoot my brother's bone stock glock 19. His trigger breaks super crisp, almost 1911 crisp (I know, blasphemy). It's heavy, and has some over travel, but the break is very clean.

http://youtu.be/Ps5zX__XBFk

Here's a video of my trigger, takeup, creep, break.

i'm more a 1911 guy and not glock expert so i was hoping someone could chime in. Is the creep normal and my brother lucked out? or is his normal, and mine screwed up?

Can i send it to glock and have them "fix" it under warranty if mine isn't normal? or should i just be looking at an aftermarket trigger?

The creep you're referring to is associated with the vertical extension in the trigger bar attempting to overcome and push the FPS (firing pin safety) upwards to release the striker assembly.

Since the trigger bar is nothing more than a stamped part, the final finish along the edges are rough, and quite crude. In the case of the vertical extension, that rough, crude edge is what engages the FPS, and pushes it upwards. That edge needs to be rounded-off and polished.

In the case of an FPS, the shoulder has a ridge, which grossly impedes upon a smooth break. Ideally, the shoulder should be rounded-off, re-contoured and polished. Tedious work.

Some are finished better than others, which would explain the difference you feel between pistols.

At the end of the day, while you can certainly reduce creep, it will always be present in a Glock pistol simply based on the design.

[S0M1L9S]

Looks normal for a factory Glock trigger.

Just need more rounds through (or the 25 cent polish) to smooth out, so +1 to what Press Check said.
Going even further, you can reduce the power on the safety spring.
Also an increase in the trigger spring will make your take up smoother.

Short of spending ~150 on a fulcrum or skimmer triggers, it is what it is.

[tonyxcom]

That doesn't look normal to me at all.

He takes up the slack while the woman is talking. That is when the striker block is disengaged. He is now sitting on the wall. From there it should break but I see a ton of creep like the OP says. More than I even get with crappy Ghost 3.5 connectors.

OP, what is the trigger like with the factory bar? Is your stock bar a "dot" connector?

The geometry of the trigger is different in Gen3 vs 4 so I actually prefer the "dot" connectors the 4's come with in my 3's, even over the slightly lighter minus connector. I run the minus in my 17 and it barely has any creep at all.

[teflondog]

The stock Glock trigger is heavy, but crisp. If you lighten the trigger with a "-" connector, you'll have to sacrifice the crisp break for a little mushiness in exchange. This has been the general rule for Gen 3 Glocks.

I've always left my Glock triggers stock but did a 25 cent polish job to smoothen out the takeup. The polish job gives you the perception that the trigger is lighter even if it doesn't actually reduce the pull weight.

[G-forceJunkie]

That is normal with the "-" connector. Look at the mechanics, it works by changing the angle that the end of the trigger bar slides on. You exchange a lighter pull for a longer amount of "creep." If you want it crisper, put in a "+" bar. Its heavier, but a crisper brake. I would suggest you let it brake in well and some of that creep will smooth out. But you really need to treat the trigger much different than a 1911. Stage one, pull through the slack as you cock the striker and take the internal safeties off. Then the point the trigger bar hits the connector, treat the rest of the pull as you would a DA revolver. Firm and smooth.

[cc426]

When I had the stock "." Dot connector there was still the same amount of creep. Just a heavier pull

Both my 17 and my brothers 19 are gen 4

[GM_77]

That looks normal but hard to tell from slack and creep. If you want to see the real creep you should hold the trigger down and rack the slide. Then slowly let it out until you hear the reset. Once you hear the reset then pull the trigger slowly. That is what I would call creep, unless you do it that way I don't know how you could truly tell if you are at the wall or not.

The slack on the glock trigger is not consistent resistance so most people aren't at the wall when they think they are.

What connector does your brother have? I used to run 3.5lb but went back to the stock because the break was crisper and trigger less mushy so going to a heavier connector might be better.

[SimonBirch]

Well

If u want a easy and cheap upgrade. Change the springs and connector. Also buy the 80$ fulcrum trigger from glockworx.

[SimonBirch]

Btw I did this to my glock 34 and it has that crisp break u want

[cc426]

That doesn't look normal to me at all.

He takes up the slack while the woman is talking. That is when the striker block is disengaged. He is now sitting on the wall. From there it should break but I see a ton of creep like the OP says.

^^^ that is correct. I'm not taking about take up. It is creep after the slack in the takeup.

The creep is actually pretty smooth, there's just a lot of it. It's hard to pull the trigger slowly in one hand and film with a cell phone in the other hand

[cc426]

That looks normal but hard to tell from slack and creep. If you want to see the real creep you should hold the trigger down and rack the slide. Then slowly let it out until you hear the reset. Once you hear the reset then pull the trigger slowly. That is what I would call creep, unless you do it that way I don't know how you could truly tell if you are at the wall or not.

Here you go see attached video. I already dry fired and racked, video is the reset and pull. It is creep.

http://youtu.be/34fF7SqKpnc